Kaol
exactly right

what really boils my blood is when they harp on about global climate models

I make computer models for a living. much simpler ones granted, but a smaller version of the same thing essentially.

because we have bugger all in the way of calibration data most of the time, the results can only be trusted so far. and this is with about 5 variables.

a global climate model has far more variables than we can concieve, with no data available for calibration, and with processes far too complex to accurately model mathematically.

so essentially, a bad representation with crap data and no way of verifying it

and they spout the results of these models to the public without a hint of a warning that they might not be accurate.

Climate models were built 20 years ago and run, predictions for now were made. these all turned out wrong.

edit: re: inconvenciencing polar bears and penguins. last fairly authoritative stuff I read was that while the edges of the ice caps might be melting, the interior is actually thickening for the first time in thousands of years...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Mon 8 Sep 2008, 11:04, Reply)