*reappears*
On the H&S thing, I was out in Australia last year and there's a large rock outcrop overlooking the sea (which is full of sharks!) at Indian Heads on Fraser Island. There are no handrails or even proper paths. You're left to your own devices. They do however have warning notices, which read:

"Please take care. Your safety is our concern, but your responsibility"

I think that's great. To me it means: Right, we've told you it's dangerous - you should be able to see for yourself that it is, because it's a GBFO rocky cliff with sharks 100 feet below in the sea, so watch out. If you fall of and die it's your own bloody fault.

H&S needs more of this.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Tue 28 Oct 2008, 13:21, Reply)