Just heard.........
One of them has had his appeal rejected, the other got a nine-month reduction in sentence.

Taking some of the nature vs nurture and rehabilitation ideas forward, I agree that we should be truly trying to rehabilitate people in prison and we should take into account their upbringing, background etc whilst judging them, up to a point. What about the upbringing and background of a religious extremist terrorist? Do we base our judgment of any of his wrongdoings on HIS world view? What about a racist murder? Should we have based the trials of KKK members on their world view? How about Nazi camp guards? There are times, I believe, when it is clear that things people do ARE wrong with no grey areas.

What we cannot get away from is that in this case, they took a life for fun, not in self defence, not in the "gravest extreme", for FUN.

Can there be rehabilitation in a case like this?
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Wed 29 Oct 2008, 14:34, Reply)