Bertyboy
It may look like they're just lying there grunting, but I used to watch it with two guys who knew a fair bit about jiu jitsu, and they were pointing out to me the various ways each combatant were shifting positions, weight and grip in order to get the upper hand.

I like the standup stuff, it's more what I learnt, but I now find the groundwork stuff fascinating. You can see a gifted practitioner set up a less-knowledgeable opponent, and then they flip them round into a choke or submission hold.

I've seen a guy being pinned down by a standing opponent, the standing guy was just wailing on the downed guy, who then twitched suddenly, before the standing guy started tapping the cage walls frantically. Whilst the downed guy looked like he was in a very bad position, he'd set the other guy up, caught his arm, adjusted his weight, and nearly snapped the arm in two!
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 6 May 2009, 16:08, Reply)