see above, thumbs up for Mudhoney
I think my problem is that angsty white American music strikes me as somewhat pathetic. When you think of the dignity shown by the old blues players - who really DID have some very real reasons to be fucking unhappy - when compared to those suburban brats who 'no-one understands, man', that whole attitude seems laughable.

Classic woe-is-me Americans whose only real problems were boredom and only having the one car etc. Benders, I say.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Dec 2009, 13:26, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

I wouldn't say that a lot of the grunge stuff is angsty
emo crap may be like that, but I certainly wouldn't say AiC or Pearl Jam were/are. People who can play their instruments and sing well and can construct a song that is beyond a rudimentary level are welcome, regardless of subject matter.

Most of them were at least pretty fucked up on drugs, and not the sort to write whiny songs when their problems were only those you mention
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Dec 2009, 13:44, Reply)

flag bearers for that scene Nirvana were pure angst, surely?
And I reckon that playing instruments and singing well and constructing songs that are beyond a rudimentary level are all hugely overrated as musical attributes.

By those criteria Yes and Emerson, Lake and Palmer would be the zenith of musical achievement rather than its nadir, which I firmly believe that they are.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Dec 2009, 13:54, Reply)

there is a huge gulf between being able to play and writing a good, interesting song
and what Yes and ELP do :-P
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Dec 2009, 14:01, Reply)

Too fucking right there is

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 8 Dec 2009, 14:07, Reply)

haha

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Dec 2009, 14:14, Reply)