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The Doveston asks: Have you ever fought back from a terrible illness? Got out of a job that was going nowhere? Secured a great victory against the odds through dishonesty and cheating? Warm our hearts, B3ta

(, Thu 13 Dec 2012, 13:06)
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Indeed - the employment of 2.0 does seem to upset people quite a lot.
It would be ironic, were it in a song.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:19, 1 reply)
I'm afraid Plumdozer will have to verify whether or not that is ironic.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:21, closed)
I await his decision with anticip.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:21, closed)
according to wikipedia, the exact definition is debatable
And there are several different types of irony.

HTH xx

But getting upset by 2.0 isn't ironic.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:42, closed)
you see, you started your response with "according to wikipedia"
that's where you went wrong.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:45, closed)
That was his first mistake?

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:46, closed)
no, i'm not sure of his first mistake.
i became aware of him when he complained on /talk about being bullied, that was a mistake.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:49, closed)
probably being born?

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:49, closed)

Mistake number 1, I pressed my Accord key fob once, the indicator lights flashed indicating my growing level of 2.5litres of pure rage.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:52, closed)
it's a reference to the overbearing windbag on OT
Who checks all facts to Wikipedia.

I realise of course that you may not have been aware of this.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:54, closed)
i don't get it.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 12:59, closed)
I know.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:08, closed)
you know what?

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:26, closed)
He don't know NUFFINK.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:34, closed)
I know you know.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:31, closed)
Not even when one is upset by 2.0, despite that one has set out deliberately to upset the employer of 2.0?

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:07, closed)
I dunno.
Ask Wikipedia.
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:14, closed)
You are found wanting, Plumdozer. I was given the impression you were the expert on all things Morrisette.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:20, closed)
He genuinely believes that he is.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:23, closed)
in all seriousness, Vaggers
I've been outlining a proposal for a piece of work for the MA I'm starting next year so please refer all queries regarding literary matters to Montychops.

I ain't got no time, you dig?
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 13:43, closed)
what's the ma?
some sort of fast food place?
(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 14:06, closed)
No, it's YOUR ma.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 14:16, closed)
i'm glad she's finally found work.

(, Wed 19 Dec 2012, 14:21, closed)

Kind of is, really. Let us consider a standard asshole gambit: "Fuck off back to mumsnet". This invites the recipient to leave the current locale, and head instead toward a suitably humiliating destination. This can be broadly summarised as, "I have no respect for you, and do not wish to hear your opinions. Go somewhere less worthy, and cease bothering me with your prattle.".

Wikipedia references notwithstanding, the rule of thumb with irony is that it's the unexpected/unimplied outcome, not the obvious one. I don't think I have many references in common with you, but from what I gather, this may work - it's Summer Bay being flattened by a glacier, not Summer Bay being burned to a crisp by a solar flare. The latter is a common (mis)interpretation, which is why irony is being increasingly conflated with hypocrisy.

So, yes, back to the point. Bloke A is told by bloke B that bloke B no longer wishes to hear from bloke A. Bloke A therefore puts bloke B on 'ignore 2.0', which blocks bloke B from seeing bloke A, or being seen by bloke A. It is for bloke B as if bloke A had indeed "fucked off back to mumsnet", as bloke A has, at this point, apparently ceased to exist.

From the outside looking in, bloke B asking bloke A to vanish, bloke A accordingly (lolaccord, etc) vanishing, and bloke B then wailing harder than a Japanese fishing fleet because he can no longer hear from, or talk to bloke A, is ironic. It is not the expected outcome - bloke B should be happy, not wailey.

What is it you valleygirl wannabes sign off with? Ah, yes - hth bbz xoxo (gl w/ ma (lol))
(, Thu 20 Dec 2012, 2:27, closed)
Shut up, there's a love x

(, Thu 20 Dec 2012, 8:27, closed)

if you could manage to follow your own advice, you'd be considerably less obnoxious xx
(, Thu 20 Dec 2012, 11:05, closed)

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