Seems like you missed the point. Did you not actually read my post?
Can't you see what's wrong with that statement? It's inherently racist.

You appear to be confusing "racism" with the simple premise that a country's government's first responsibility should be towards its own citizens. Racism is when someone is discriminated against because of their race or ethnic background. I'm talking about citizenship here, which has nothing to do with race. The British government should favour a black British citizen over a white Russian citizen.

Look at Britain's history. We're nation of immigrants who've had wave after wave after wave of "durty forriners" coming over here

*sigh*
Yet another person who is unable to grasp the significance of what's been happening to this country over the past decade or so. Please get this: yes, we're a "nation of immigrants". However, this has been a gradual process over the course of millennia. People have immigrated into this country, and been assimilated into society. What's we're facing now is VERY different: huge numbers arriving en-mass, bringing with them vastly different values and ethics, and creating "us and them" divisions within our nation. The fact all of our ancestors probably came from all corners of the globe, hundreds or thousands of years ago, bears no relation whatsoever to the current immigration problem.

The Afro-Caribbean immigration of the 50's and 60's

What relevance does this have to my post? I already said that I have no problem with those people who immigrated here and worked hard and created lives for themselves. The people who came here 50 years ago did not do so because they wanted to claim benefits.

"they're over here stealing our jobs"

I said nothing about stealing jobs - so what relevance does this have?

Then comes the EEC and the right of other EEC citizens to come here (obviously, to steal our jobs )

Yet again, you appear to have missed the point of my post. Yet again, I will repeat that I have no problem with someone who comes here legally to work, and not to scrounge.

When I was last in London I was friendly with a few Poles. They were over here to work for a few years, save up as much cash as they could, then go back to Poland to buy an enormous turnip in the country.

And good luck to them - I totally agree. If there's a job vacancy that a lazy British person refuses to take, then I say jolly good luck to the Polish guy who takes it. I hope he earns a packet.

Yet again - it's not about "taking our jobs" (did you see that South Park episode? hehe). It's about people who come here to take, and not to give.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 15:39, 3 replies)

But..
Yet again - it's not about "taking our jobs" (did you see that South Park episode? hehe). It's about people who come here to take, and not to give.

This is one of the great myths. The proportion of immigrants who come over to Britain simply to sponge off the welfare state is so small as to be statistically insignificant. But the FEAR of people who come over here simply to sponge off the welfare state is MASSIVE.

Think about it. The people who have the get-up-and-go to leave where they were born and travel thousands of miles to settle in a place where they don't know the language or customs aren't the type to simply sit back and rub their hands and say "Great lads. We're in the Land Of Milk And Honey and all we have to do is sit back and let the silly British folk look after us."

No. They're, mostly, the type of people who, on arriving in Britain think "How can I get money to make my life better. How can I find a wife, have kids and make sure that they're educated so they have a better life than I did". So they'll take every job they can - mostly low paid and menial - to make their life better than mere subsistence. Yes, a hefty proportion of them will claim benefits and work "on the black" but, over time, most of them end up working legally. Still in a shit job but they'll do everything in their power to educate their kids and give them a chance at the good life.

Immigration isn't a thing to be feared. Most of them integrate so successfully into society that by the third generation they're buying the Daily Mail and wailing about damn immigrants, coming over here, taking, not giving and so the cycle goes on.

Here's something to ponder. Name me ONE society where peaceful immigration has caused it to crash and burn.

Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:02, closed)

I think perhaps people
are ignoring the actual biggest fear here. Forget about the indigenous population being angry about welfare sponges (there are enough of those around in Britain around at the moment.) What people are scared of is *culture* change. There is far more froth-flecked ranting about conspiracy theories with the Jews and the Muslims etc taking over, or the racial purity being compromised, than there is genuine economic worry (which sadly serves as a cover for such bigotry.)
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:14, closed)

Dear God..

Racial purity.

I smoke too much, drink too much and don't exercise enough and I still rarely get sick. I put it down to "hybrid vigour".

I love being a mongrel.

And I agree with most of what you said. But cultural change is always going on. Anyone time-warped from the 40's or 50's into today's society would probably drop dead of culture shock.

Cheers
( Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:25, closed)

Yeah
cultural change is needed. I'm just pointing out that a lot of the ranting about 'taking our jobs' is a cover up for even less socially acceptable views
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Mon 5 Apr 2010, 16:37, closed)

"What's we're facing now is VERY different: huge numbers arriving en-mass, bringing with them vastly different values and ethics, and creating "us and them" divisions within our nation."
Pfft, those nasty insular bigots, creating an "us and them" division that you are quite powerless to oppose. Eye, mote, etc.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 10:19, closed)

It's a full 10 kilospoons and no mistake, Flappers.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 11:32, closed)

The general perception of West Indian immigrants in the 1950s was that they were lazy and contributed nothing to the economy.
Not at all accurate in any way, but tits like you believed it.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 6 Apr 2010, 18:21, closed)

And here the personal abuse starts
Sad. Up until now we have had reasonable arguments. Now you call me a "tit".

Your assessment of me is made through ignorance. You think that I am prejudiced, and that I don't know what I am talking about.

The truth is that I do know what I am talking about, because I have first-hand experience of all of this. And the fact that you presume such things about me makes you the prejudiced tit.
(EuroSong I love horse meat: best of all the animals, Tue 6 Apr 2010, 19:19, closed)

Do you. Do you REALLY.
Name your sources, so to speak. What job is it that you do/did?
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 6 Apr 2010, 20:37, closed)

Also, this is b3ta. You come out with bollocks like this here
and you'll get called a tit (or worse). I've not got the patience to mollycoddle you.
( Wicca'd Witch needs ideas for a new sig on..., Tue 6 Apr 2010, 20:57, closed)