Professions I Hate
Broken Arrow says: Bankers, recruitment consultants, politicians. What professions do you hate and why?
( , Thu 27 May 2010, 12:26)
Broken Arrow says: Bankers, recruitment consultants, politicians. What professions do you hate and why?
( , Thu 27 May 2010, 12:26)
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chuggers
Just because they are stopping you on behalf of a charity does not mean they are representing them. They are on commission or are paid hourly they really don’t give a fuck whether it’s for Barnardos, Guide dogs for the blind or the Red Cross beyond a veneer of caring and a hastily learnt pitch.
The companies are on commission to sell and the charities still have to pay them to do it so a large % goes to them and not the charity.
It is lucrative for charities and they get around 3 times back on their investment as people sign up long term by direct debt and there is a guilt trip about cancelling along with apathy.
I used to work just off Carnaby st which is a magnet to chuggers, as usual I walked past with a cheery no thanks and eye contact, a sarcastic remark was directed at me intended to make me feel guilty about not stopping or giving. This is a habitual tactic designed to engage you so they can start a conversation but completely counterproductive.
Its moments like that you choose whether to turn around and enlighten the fuckwit as to how much you have given personally over the years or raised due to your fundraising within the company which if they chugged for another 10 years could not possibly hope to match.
Telling them that would not make any difference, but I do say I choose the charities I give to carefully and support them directly and thank them for their interest, I did sometimes counter pitch as I have talked to charity and corporate responsibility committees in the past on behalf of a charity and know my way around sales, but then realise your just wasting your time and theirs as they have no real interest in charity work, if they did they would have a different career choice.
They are legally obliged to tell you they are being paid to talk to you and are taking money for their service on behalf of the charity, they use the same high pressure selling techniques used in other sales business. As they are under pressure to sell and have targets to hit (including the hourly paid) they can be deceitful and aggressive. If you are interested in helping a charity, go direct and give and make sure you tick give gift aid as you give 28% more through tax relief on your donation.
Fundraisers within charities are of course paid but they on the most part passionately believe in the aims of the charity involved which is a gulf away from chugging.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 10:37, 7 replies)
Just because they are stopping you on behalf of a charity does not mean they are representing them. They are on commission or are paid hourly they really don’t give a fuck whether it’s for Barnardos, Guide dogs for the blind or the Red Cross beyond a veneer of caring and a hastily learnt pitch.
The companies are on commission to sell and the charities still have to pay them to do it so a large % goes to them and not the charity.
It is lucrative for charities and they get around 3 times back on their investment as people sign up long term by direct debt and there is a guilt trip about cancelling along with apathy.
I used to work just off Carnaby st which is a magnet to chuggers, as usual I walked past with a cheery no thanks and eye contact, a sarcastic remark was directed at me intended to make me feel guilty about not stopping or giving. This is a habitual tactic designed to engage you so they can start a conversation but completely counterproductive.
Its moments like that you choose whether to turn around and enlighten the fuckwit as to how much you have given personally over the years or raised due to your fundraising within the company which if they chugged for another 10 years could not possibly hope to match.
Telling them that would not make any difference, but I do say I choose the charities I give to carefully and support them directly and thank them for their interest, I did sometimes counter pitch as I have talked to charity and corporate responsibility committees in the past on behalf of a charity and know my way around sales, but then realise your just wasting your time and theirs as they have no real interest in charity work, if they did they would have a different career choice.
They are legally obliged to tell you they are being paid to talk to you and are taking money for their service on behalf of the charity, they use the same high pressure selling techniques used in other sales business. As they are under pressure to sell and have targets to hit (including the hourly paid) they can be deceitful and aggressive. If you are interested in helping a charity, go direct and give and make sure you tick give gift aid as you give 28% more through tax relief on your donation.
Fundraisers within charities are of course paid but they on the most part passionately believe in the aims of the charity involved which is a gulf away from chugging.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 10:37, 7 replies)
Lunch run
There is a legion of chuggers between my place of work and Subway. I offer to make a donation but they can't accept it, has to be direct debit. Fine, I'll keep my money thanks.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 11:43, closed)
There is a legion of chuggers between my place of work and Subway. I offer to make a donation but they can't accept it, has to be direct debit. Fine, I'll keep my money thanks.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 11:43, closed)
What's fun is to say you'll cancel the direct debit after 3 months
Only then do they tell you that with the costs of employing the chuggers on top of bank fees the charity doesn't actually see a penny of your donation until 5 or 6 months after you start.
( , Sun 30 May 2010, 16:48, closed)
Only then do they tell you that with the costs of employing the chuggers on top of bank fees the charity doesn't actually see a penny of your donation until 5 or 6 months after you start.
( , Sun 30 May 2010, 16:48, closed)
A chugger
Called my husband mean for not talking to him in Manchester the other day, my husband has given more to charity than that little parasite, that I'm sure of.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 12:39, closed)
Called my husband mean for not talking to him in Manchester the other day, my husband has given more to charity than that little parasite, that I'm sure of.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 12:39, closed)
No I don't have any time to spare you
One of the blokes will have dreadlocks, the women may wear ill fitting vaguely ethnic clothing, they will be juggling with their clipboards and being overly cheery.
If I'm sober I'll ignore them, if I've had a few beers I'll tell them if I'd a choice between a million homeless/starving/(insert charity case here) people dying in agony or my cat getting a sore tummy, I'd go for the million dying any time.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 12:40, closed)
One of the blokes will have dreadlocks, the women may wear ill fitting vaguely ethnic clothing, they will be juggling with their clipboards and being overly cheery.
If I'm sober I'll ignore them, if I've had a few beers I'll tell them if I'd a choice between a million homeless/starving/(insert charity case here) people dying in agony or my cat getting a sore tummy, I'd go for the million dying any time.
( , Fri 28 May 2010, 12:40, closed)
When did animals become part of the family?
I know people who've spent order of magnitude more on vet bills than a new one could cost. I just don't see it, myself.
( , Sun 30 May 2010, 16:50, closed)
I know people who've spent order of magnitude more on vet bills than a new one could cost. I just don't see it, myself.
( , Sun 30 May 2010, 16:50, closed)
Fair enough, what you said was true, but don't blame the guy on the street. Sure, some of them will be cocky bastards, but thats what happens when you do this job for long enough, dealing with people being rude to them constantly.
I did a similar job to this (door to door, not on the street) and when I applied it's not clear what you're doing. Everything is kept a secret until you're there on your first day of work, and the offers of money seem too good to refuse. Most of the people I met were nice guys, just in need of a job to pay the bills and willing to take anything that came there way. Most only last a few weeks, the most determined ones maybe a few months. It's the people that stick around for years, opening new offices in other cities, recruiting people to do the same job there, and taking a big commission off the people working for them. They become a part of the scam, and they're the real cunts.
Besides all of this, the charities still come off much better than without these people. If there wasn't anything in it for them, they wouldn't do it. Nobody here is complaining about the TV adverts that they pay £1000's for, thats's also just money going into the pocket of those that need it least. People that truly want to give to charity donate do this already, and will be more inclined to give direct. The people that sign up to this kind of thing are the kind of people that just need a push to donate, the majority of people sigining up with us had seen the TV adverts and said they meant to sign up and just forgot or didn't get round to it. They probably wouldn't have bothered without that person coming round.
So next time, just be nice to they guy on the street, they're only trying to make a living too.
( , Sat 29 May 2010, 3:36, closed)
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