Your list...
...of stuff you DO like (Zep, jeans, etc) is pretty much identical to my girlfriend's, and I've liked her very much for five years, despite her liking Southern Comfort over JD. The women you've mentioned sound very jealous, narrow minded and a bit clueless, frankly. Do they have degrees? Do they even realise that art and culture are going on, let alone engage in discussion or activity around them? Also, observe how the men in your family preferred to be in the kitchen rather than with their wives/mothers/daughters/sisters...

I find sexism a bit of a misnomer these days, in a way. As you've started to twig, much of the backward thinking and negativity comes from women (although some blokes still have a lot to answer for). Those women 'read' magazines, buy clothes and wear make-up produced by other women, not men (by and large). Huge swathes of production management in popular TV are female, churning out rubbish to keep women chasing 'that' look, 'that' lifestyle, 'that' house, 'that' man or 'that' set of friends. Women turning on their own kind, to try and impress men. And the real joke is, many of us guys don't give a flying hoot about any of it.

I would ignore them, as best you can. Go on getting healthier, cleverer and more capable. Leave them and their distorted priorities behind.
(Good old boy just like yer grandma!, Thu 31 Dec 2009, 20:09, 1 reply)

Yes
I think you're right there. A LOT of the real nasty, emotional manipulation is done by women. Men may sometimes make blunt joking comments that can seem harsh, but I usually find these a lot less hurtful than a sly backstabbing compliment from a catty woman.

I really HATE 'women's' magazines. they are pretty much without exception, incredibly dull. while music, movie, technology, current affairs magazines [typically classed as 'men's interests', wtf?] are much more my style. Why should being female mean you're shallow and obsessed with overpriced celebrity culture? it baffles me.
( Seventh is somewhat subdued, Tue 5 Jan 2010, 14:14, closed)