I think it's fair to say
that doing any job that is done in betterment of the nation as a whole, in fact any job that revolves around you doing something to make life better for other people - whether they're from the same country as you or not - makes you a hero of some kind. If you get killed whilst doing that job, then even more so. Conscription doesn't even come into it.
( PMGT -Bacon., Fri 1 Jun 2012, 13:27, 2 replies)

I'm just tucking into a box of Cadbury Heroes, I think it fair to say that makes me no more a hero than your definition of it

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 13:37, closed)

No, what that makes you is a pedantic prick. But I think that's common knowledge round these parts. Still, full marks for consistency.
( PMGT -Bacon., Fri 1 Jun 2012, 13:39, closed)

I've eaten most of the twirls now, they're my favourite

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 13:46, closed)

Pervert
Save me the caramels
( shinyshinyscalp less a man, more a way of life, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 15:26, closed)

No it fucking doesn't.
Rory is 100% right. Being a professional soldier and then seeing military action in which you get injured is par for the course. It doesn't make you a hero. Chances are all it makes you is a down-on-his luck, poorly educated Northerner with few other employment prospects. Boo fucking hoo, I say.

The real heroes are me and my mates, because we can drink 15 pints each without being sick.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 14:51, closed)

Most of the squaddies I know
can do that as well.
(username failed moderation, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 15:07, closed)

That's not what I was implying.
I was saying anyone who takes up a job that directly improves the overall quality of life for other people should be looked up to. For that, see doctors, nurses, teachers, soldiers.... I happen to agree with you in that injured=hero is ridiculous, which is the way the Sun would have it. A big part of which I sense is to try and deflect from the thought that we're fighting a war that shouldn't directly involve us. If you ask most injured soldiers most of them say "I was just doing my job". And yes, you join the army, you get shot at. Nobody here is disputing that.

But, if you get killed trying to clear an Afghan town of rebel fighters that will happily shoot innocent people for not doing what they're told, then you deserve to be considered heroic. Just like if you stopped someone from getting mugged in the street. I'd say that's pretty heroic too.

The flip side of that is, there are pricks like you that seem to think "you signed up so you deserve it". That's like saying "you crossed the road, you deserved to get hit by a car". not that black and white I'm afraid, and personally, I hope your names are at the top of the list when they eventually bring conscription back.
( PMGT -Bacon., Fri 1 Jun 2012, 15:18, closed)

I think it's fair to say your wreath was shit, and that twirls are definitely the best cadburys hero ever
nuff said
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 15:26, closed)

Let's not
feed the trolls . . .
(username failed moderation, Fri 1 Jun 2012, 15:54, closed)

Yes, I do apologise.
It had me going for a moment until it started being far too blatant, then I twigged. It won't be getting any more from me.
( PMGT -Bacon., Fri 1 Jun 2012, 18:14, closed)

You're starting to sound dangerously like a socialist here.
Who cares what happens to the lower castes? They're uneducated and reactionary, they should be grateful they're even allowed to get paid for their work.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sun 3 Jun 2012, 20:28, closed)