Precisely

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

I have to say,
most people in this category use hand-waving and "stands to reason, dunnit?" as the principles modes of argument, which lessens the impact of their point.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:08, archived)