Saw a preview showing of Al Gore's
an inconveniant truth at work last night. It was a brilliant film, but there was nothing in it which we didn't know already, and it made me angry and sad listening to people today saying how shocked they were by it - for fucks sake, scientists have been warning us for decades about the global warning problem and yet people only take it seriously when a 'celebrity' with fancy graphics and dramatic music tells them. Don't get me wrong - it's a brilliant film and Al Gore deserves full credit for trying, but I think he's fighting a loosing battle as these same dumb assholes will have forgotten everything about the film as soon as they get into their 4x4s on their way home tonight.

Anyways, (plays dramatic music) go to www.stopglobalwarming.org/default.asp
and sign up for the online march

/end of rant/

/looses all faith in humanity/
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 12:59, archived)

I think you'll find
that not everyone here believes in global warming

and even if they do, they might not care for your political evangelism
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:00, archived)

I wish I'd thought of saying that

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

*bing*

(Himjim died a little more inside on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

**bling**

( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:03, archived)

Sing

( tfs bye, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:13, archived)

Im not being evangelical,
but THE TIME IS NIGH
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

Time of what exactly?

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:02, archived)

Time of my life.
No I've never felt this way before. It's the truth.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:04, archived)

the time of south london becoming a malarial swamp
(or more of a malarial swamp, this time with real water)
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:04, archived)

I'd much rather die of 'global warming' than anything else
If only it was real :(
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

If only what was real? Your death?

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:07, archived)

Global Warming IS real.
It's 11 degrees Celcius outside in the middle of British winter. Daffodils are sprouting from the ground 4 months early.

Global warming is happening.
( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:07, archived)

I can't see any?
There are none in the garden
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:08, archived)

you are a twat

( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

So /talk is just the same as /board?
But with different people, and less rubbish pictures
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

I don't know.
When somebody says something stupid on the board, do people still tell them that they've said something stupid and then call them a twat?

If so then yes.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

I'm talking about what people say to me when I post anything
I'm very good at annoying idiots
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:15, archived)

There aren't many idiots here.
You've been misinformed.

On many things it appears.

And you haven't managed to annoy anybody ... bless your little socks for trying though. It must make your winkle tingle to feel so important.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:16, archived)

Just the same as /board...
*returns to /board*
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:17, archived)

/celebrates/

(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

you dear, are the idiot
this is evidenced by your spelling, grammar and content
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:16, archived)

you bring nothing to either
*ignores*
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

Well, they are certainly coming up at my work, and around Oxfordshire
I can't speak for everywhere obviously.
( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

Is sunny here in the West Mindlands
AND FREEZING COLD
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

ZOMG we are in the same county

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

TRIFFIDS!

( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

10 of the hottest years in the past 65,000 years
have occured within the last 14 years.
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

What utter bollocks
there are no accurate temperature records past about 150 years ago
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

not actual written records
but fossil evidence can give information that can be extrapolated
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:15, archived)

not accurately
and I suspect the timeframe is too short for fossil records and accurate carbon analysis. I mean, you can look at old trees and tell which years were warm/cold/wet/dry but nothing with any degree of accuracy.

Anyway, the last few tens of thousands of years have been us coming out of a major ice age with a few mini ice-age blips. Stands to reason the average temperature will increase

For the record, I believe that human activity is responsible for global warming, no question, but that doesn't mean there is any PROOF, and that's where enviromental groups fall down.

After all, the earth has been a lot lot warmer than this in the past, before we could possibly have had an influence.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:23, archived)

no it hasn't
that's the point. (unless you're talking about just after it was 'created')
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:29, archived)

erm, yes it has
there have been significant periods where there have been no polar ice caps. I'd classify that as "warmer"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:36, archived)

What I find sad
is that there are plenty of other reasons not to drive big fuck-off SUVs and emit giant chemical clouds from factories. But because this reason receives all of the attention and can't be proven, people dismiss the whole topic.
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:30, archived)

no but
by looking at relative changes such as ice cores etc, some clever people can get a very good idea of what temperature is doing.
( mazurka wants two's up on your mum., Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

I'm pretty sure they can't do it with nearly enough accuracy
to compare annual highs.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:21, archived)

I believe in global warming as much as most people
but that alone is hardly evidence
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

I can only comment on the effects I've seen can't I?

( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:13, archived)

you can
but without evidence, you can't comment on the cause... at least not credibly
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:20, archived)

The climate cycles
we were in a mini-ice age just over a hundred years ago.

Yes, the earth is warming up. CO2 emissions are almost certainly not helping and should be reduced. But there is no solid evidence anywhere that what we are seeing is not part of the planets temperature cycle.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

You read Micheal Chriton too ?
;)
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

No mate
I'm a Biochemical Engineering Lecturer. I might have some background on this ;)
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

then you'll know that temperature and CO2 emissions can be read from the frozen
ice in antartica in the same way that a tree surgeon can get info from the rings inside a tree. These records, which go back 65,000 years , do indeed show a cyclic system at work. However, the amount of CO2 being captured in the ice over the last few decades is at a much, much higher level than ever seen before.,
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:18, archived)

Shit, I best close down all those industrial plants around antartica.
It couldn't be anything else, like the world evolving naturaly.

I'm not saying that Global Warming doesn't exist, just that people are giving humans too much credit.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:22, archived)

no, you can't
well, CO2 maybe. Temperature, absolutely not. Not past freeze-thaw data anyway, which is difficult to interpret and probably meaningless.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:25, archived)

Hehe.
You should read his book "State of Fear", I think you'll find it interesting.

I know jack-shit really about this stuff, but I found the book quite entertaining.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:20, archived)

NOVEL.
FICTION.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

Oh', yes, because all fiction and novels are entirely false and could NEVER be bassed on fact.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:18, archived)

Oh Jesus fucked by a horse
I need a cup of tea
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:21, archived)

I do hope it's herbal and fairtrade.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:23, archived)

Good grief, man, look at his fucking track record.
He's a scifi writer, for pity's sake.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:30, archived)

When I own my own plane
If the government tells me they're going to tax me more, I'll move to a country where they haven't invented 'global warming'
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

If by "not helping" you mean "accelerating global warming"
then whether it would be happening on its own (I am convinced that it wouldn't, on anything like the scale we're seeing) seems immaterial anyway.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:17, archived)

And we're essencialy just coming out of an ice-age.
They used to have markets on The Themes when it froze over.

Ovbously it's going to get hotter.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:12, archived)

This.
And aren't we currently closer to the sun? The Earth's orbit changes, y'know.
( Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

fuck me you're right.
I'll take it all back. PANIC OVER EVERYBODY.
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:21, archived)

haha
you've solved it!
( Sexy Picard 2000, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:22, archived)

( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:31, archived)

M D
N H
( Malchick, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:03, archived)

Debbie Harry.
oh yes.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:04, archived)

that it's happening is in little doubt
but not everyone believes that human behaviour has a significant effect on it.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:02, archived)

I must be part of the little doubt

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:04, archived)

You're a bit of an idiot, aren't you?

( Malchick, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

99.99% of people think so

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

I'm hazarding a guess
that you're not particularly aware of many global climate studies, and that it's not something that occupies much of your time? I could be wrong.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:06, archived)

Just take no notice of a word I say

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:07, archived)

If only there were a convenient virtual button to press ...

( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:08, archived)

Gotcha!
*does the shooting-with-fingers thing and winks*
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

Ris?

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

this
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

What's he got to do with it?

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:13, archived)

Either way, we aren't helping matters.

( Edd: The Unfunny Try-Hard Edgelord, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

Precisely

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

I have to say,
most people in this category use hand-waving and "stands to reason, dunnit?" as the principles modes of argument, which lessens the impact of their point.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:08, archived)

a frightening number
do believe they're funny however
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:02, archived)

I think 'global warming' is funny :D

( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:03, archived)

Get to fuck.
Get directly to fuck. Do not pass Go.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:03, archived)

I would imagine the people who don't
will intersect quite nicely with the set of people who don't believe in gravity or a spheroidal earth.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

Just to reiterate:
ONLINE MARCH?
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

I was trying to come up with some suitable words for that
but there don't appear to be any in the English language as I know it.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

well then they are fools
the evidence is all around us
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:08, archived)

Is it? Bugger.
I thought that was love.
( Dr. Shambolic je suis charlie, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

*hippy-hugs*
don't believe all the beatles tell you

(kookookachoo)
( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:13, archived)

^^^^This


It is happening anyway, but now when we go to war to stop the Indians and Chinese getting the oil we will be fighting to "Save the planet" instead of "for democracy"
(jmaxi returned again on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

*buys Hummer factory*
*drives a new Hummer every day*

Sorry? Did you say something?
( davew27 hevosen kuva!, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:00, archived)

winner.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

No. Go away.

( Malchick, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

"online march"?
Sweet monkey jesus. All the fun of political protest, without having to actually get off your arse and do something.

Like, say, turning your computer off and stop wasting natural resources.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

Personaly, I belive that a lot of scientists give us too much credit, as humanity, for global warming.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

What you read on the back of your cornflakes packet this morning
has precisely nothing to do with the issue.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:04, archived)

Just because your collage friend, the female one with dredlocks and ex-surpluse army coat...
... likes to get all heated up about the injustests that "evil corparations" poluting the world with their 'captilism' and 'greed'.... it doesn't mean she's right.

Although I do applaud her for wrecking John Lewises in Oxford Street on Mayday. That was brillient, they're comunist ways need to be haltered.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:09, archived)

*votes 90nz0*

( Mykeyboy A massive, salty filing cabinet, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

90nzo,
*pretends to throw rubber ball a long way but actually hasn't let go of it*
fetch.
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:11, archived)

Thank you for your compeling and relivent argument.
Clearly you lead the debating team at collage.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

I like this
hahaha.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

hahahaha
I haven't laughed that hard in ages. Bless you Robin Johnson.
( comrade yannovski and then, of course, there was the schnapps monkey, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:14, archived)

oh don't be a twat

( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:19, archived)

Oh come on Claire
we ALL know that believing in global warming = radical socialist. Did you not get the memo?
( comrade yannovski and then, of course, there was the schnapps monkey, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:25, archived)

When a man named
Al GORE releases a film, you'd think it would have to be a horror. I mean, it would sell itself:

"A blood-thirsty horror from Al GOOOOOOOORE!"
( Edd: The Unfunny Try-Hard Edgelord, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:01, archived)

We've now reached the point where corporations can no longer deny global warming is happening,
and are forced to come round and admit that it's too late to do anything about it.
/Private Eye

And the word is 'lose'
( Newington, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:03, archived)

There's still time,
but there's also a lot of people who have caught the global oil companie's meme of opening the issue for debate and making it seem silly to believe that global warming might be happening.
(shux, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

hmm
maybe he did loose his faith on humanity, much like dissenting vikings used to loose mighty farts during arguments
( writerblock ... embedding disabled by request on, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:05, archived)

i'm doing things

( Clairebare Back once again with the Ill behaviour, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:07, archived)

ding dong

( rnuk http://flickr.com/rnuk, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)

Filth!

( Edd: The Unfunny Try-Hard Edgelord, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 13:10, archived)