both
and have some sort of party game to work out which is which.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 21:06, archived)

Go Fist
it could be based on slackness
( glued eel /questions/questionsyoudliketoask/post1648081, Fri 12 Jan 2007, 21:09, archived)