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try and get a D60
with the 18-55 mm VR lens. £380.

I spent £400 on a bridge camera but while the zoom and macro was awesome, the NR was not.
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:41, archived)
I find the VR kit lens horrible
The pictures aren't anywhere near as crisp as the ones I get from my other lens, despite the fact that it's quite an old second hand one.
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:44, archived)
I don't have VR
so didn't know about that- the bloke in Jessops kept trying to peddle me a Sony Alpha because of built-in VR but I hate being steered by shop assistants when I don't ask for advice.

Got my D80 on eBay instead.... no VR but I've not had a complain about it anyway :-)
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:47, archived)
D80 is a decent camera (and good value atm)
you only need VR/IS if you are shooting in the dark and/or don't have a tripod (my IS lens is handy when kayaking on the sea = wobbletastic, but that's it).
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:52, archived)
oh, and
"Top Dollar" from the Crow.
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:48, archived)
nearly all non-DSLRs with have a much smaller imaging sensor
which means loads of noise at higher ISOs because the individual photosites (= pixels) are smaller
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:50, archived)
agree
DX format sensor almost 4 times the size of a cheap and nasty one in my S100FS
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:52, archived)
yep; most not full-frame (same size as a frame of 35mm film) DSLRs, including DX
have a sensor which is the same size as the defunct APS(C) film format whereas the sensor in a point & shoot digicam will be barely the size of your smallest finger nail (and many are even smaller)
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:56, archived)
have two extra points for
your background knowledge
(, Sat 23 May 2009, 19:58, archived)