The brain is an entirely deterministic state machine. But it is still said that people have the capacity to "care".
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:15, archived)
to improve the welfare of other humans. Compare and contrast with "I don't care about X" - it doesn't affect your desires and you won't do anything differently as a result of X's existence. Like the universe. :)
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:21, archived)
They care about every last grain of sand. And everything that happens is in some way connected to everything else that happens. The Universe fundamentally cannot ignore any fact, or person. It may appear uncaring when it isn't partial to your whims, but really, it's still doing exactly as you ask. Because you think you want one thing, but you ask for the opposite.
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:24, archived)
And you don't ask in any voluntary way, or signalling way. You don't have a choice but to 'ask'.
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:29, archived)
And a brain doesn't modify its response, either. It merely has a very complex response that depends on past events. As do the laws of nature; which they'd have to, because a brain is entirely subject to those very same laws of nature.
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:37, archived)
but my actions and conscious asking has no effect upon the universe. I only ask to be scalded by hot water in the sense that someone asks for a smack in the mouth by being a twat. And since we're ignorant of (probably) much of the natural law of things, we can't ask in an informed way.
A human modifies its response dependent on past events. It is complex. There's no disagreement there.
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:47, archived)
agreement there, I hope? The point is, brain cells don't change the way they work as such, they really change the "data" stored in them.
Your actions have every effect upon the universe, otherwise what's the point in doing anything? Your actions have consequences. We're not that ignorant of the effects of, for instance, boiling water, but it's in our own interests to find out more. Ignorance is not an excuse.
I think perhaps the trouble is that people tend to think of "caring" in a very personal way. I say the Universe cares. I don't mean so much that it cares whether you're happy or not. It'll kill you, if you ask it in the right way, and won't feel a jot of guilt. It's up to you not to ask for a smack in the mouth, if that's not what you want. Because that's not such a scathing analogy as you might think. The guy who gives you a smack in the mouth cares about you being a twat. What the universe cares about is complete impartiality, because that's the only thing that provides us with opportunities to achieve anything. It would actually be, in my opinion at least, a bit rubbish and pointless if we were all just fanned and fed grapes by angels all day.
(, Tue 9 Jun 2009, 22:57, archived)