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you might want to look at this
b3ta.com/talk/6234274

whoops, wrong link

this one www.b3ta.com/talk/6131097
(I helped save b3ta! weaver., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 19:43, archived)
why would they not have seen that then?

(I helped save b3ta! rosalicious i fucking love youve been framed, Wed 17 Jun 2009, 19:45, archived)
You're meant to blame JMG, not me.

(I helped save b3ta! JessAction Give me all your expensive brandy and hubcaps., Wed 17 Jun 2009, 19:47, archived)