if you have cable, get it from your cable provider
if not, get it from whoever provides your phone line

if you don't, you'll just be buying a product from someone who, in turn, is buying it from whoever provides your cable or your phone line.

although £30 sound a bit steep for phone rental, get your phone of someone else and keep your intertubes with BT.

those small tubes get clogged easily and it's a lot harder for smaller ISPs to do anything about it.

I work for a smaller ISP and I'm fucking ashamed of the tube we're whoring
( VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:12, archived)

Aye, but when it comes to BT, one word puts me right off.
Phorm.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)

Sky packet shape, Virgin have their own traffic monitoring systems, they're all as bad really.

( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:16, archived)

We've got the highest package from them
Can't see any evidence of it so far.

But if they're using Ellacoyas to traffic shape I wouldn't be surprised.

PlusNet have been doing it for years.
( jim_bob can herd cats., Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:27, archived)

virgin do packet shaping and throttling.
the only reason you dont notice it is because the higher your package, the more leeway they give you before they fuck you up.
( Azra3l Lubrication Persuasion and Brute Force ™, Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:33, archived)

Well, I can basically save about £40 a month by changing my internets and changing my phoneline to incoming only-
as, you see, the line rental is 5 times more than i spend using the landline. I have a mobile for that.
( TonyUNDERSCORE from the Internet, Tue 30 Jun 2009, 18:15, archived)