great.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:42, archived)

IT'S A VERY COMMON MISTAKE

(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:43, archived)

Go, define the difference then.
I take it you'd say that Les Mis is musical theatre, but, say, Annie Hall is a musical, right?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:45, archived)

HERE WE GO!
Music Theatre is when the story continues in the songs (like big decisions, changes, etc). Les Mis, Wicked and Ha'Penny Opera is full of "decision songs".

Musicals is basically when dialogue happens, then a song confirming the dialogue. If you took the songs out of musicals and just keeps the dialogue in the middle, the story would still make sense. Grease, Joseph, The Sound of Musicfor example. The other type of musical is where it is essentially a list of songs which don't really tell a story. Cats is a good example of this.

However, some musicals have both. Sondheim loves writing musicals where the first act is a Musical and the second act is Music Theatre. A great example of this is Into the Woods.
(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:51, archived)

Did Cats even have proper dialogue?
The DVD I have doesn't seem to have much of it.
( Bats, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:52, archived)

Ah yes...
Two secs.
(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:53, archived)

More details provided

(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:56, archived)

Cats was really fucking inane.
"Skimbleshanks, the railway cat, the cat of the railway train". What?

Pretty women in tight furry outfits, though.
( Bats, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:58, archived)

That's what you get when you write a musical based on the ether-induced ramblings of an anti-semetic Victorian gentleman

(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:01, archived)

Anti-semetic?

( Bats, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:02, archived)

T.S Eliot
Big jew hater
(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:04, archived)

I was desperately trying to think of any jew-hating in Cats.
The nearest you get are the racial slurs with the Pekinese dogs and things.
( Bats, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:06, archived)

I suppose there's always Bustopher Goldstein
the Child-Stealing Feline Yid Bolshevik.
( Flapjack I spay a little mare for you, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:32, archived)

It's a drug to stop you vomiting.

( Captn Hood-Butter is not dead yet., Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:05, archived)

i thought it was a ointment used for burns

( Tyronne Get To Falkirk, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 11:00, archived)

I don't know anything about this
so I'm taking your word for it, however you realise that sounds awfully like "stroppy highly-strung camp buggers splitting the tiniest hair possible in an attempt to make themselves sound more high-brow" ?

A bit like the whole "it's not Opera unless it's sung in Italian" argument.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:54, archived)

No no...
When I say "I prefer Music Theatre over Musicals" just means "I prefer to pay £35 for a ticket and see a story, rather than just see a camp pantomime which is essentially glorified karaoke". I wanna see acting. Not just your typical "teeth and tits" diva who wants the big musical number to herself at the end.
(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:55, archived)

I see. Fair enough
then carry on, that man.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:56, archived)

:D
I agree with you about the idiots who snub up the whole "it's not Opera unless it's sung in Italian" argument. I go see Opera for the talent. Not to watch something I don't understand.
(__, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 9:57, archived)

I watched Faust a few years ago
it was fucking awesome.
(El Guiri the only b3tan who is not fat, Fri 3 Jul 2009, 10:40, archived)