the very first Monarchs Christmas Speech
was written by Rudyard Kipling. He was a Freemason.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:09, archived)

Really?

( CowJam, Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:32, archived)

which piece are you incredulous of
i don't want to incite the tinfoil hat brigade
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:36, archived)

The Kipling bit.
I don't know if you're being serious or not and I can't be fucked googling.
( CowJam, Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:38, archived)

he was a Freemason
freemasonry.bcy.ca/biography/kipling_r/kipling_r.html
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:39, archived)

Yes
but did he write the first speech?
( CowJam, Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:41, archived)

yup, 1932 it was

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:42, archived)

awesome

( CowJam, Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:43, archived)

i guess i'm still new enough
that i find it hard to judge when a thread is going the route of the actual question posed or the route of Hilarious japes.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:46, archived)

I do too
and I started the fucking thing.

My rule of thumb is that if I don't know the answer or have a suitable truthful response I'll make something up
( CowJam, Wed 15 Jun 2011, 1:01, archived)

there are some interesting references to freemasonry in his work
but he soon fell out with it as nonsense and went back to being just a straight up lover of the empire. God save the King.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 15 Jun 2011, 0:41, archived)