I didn't get any of this subthread until I read about May making an (even bigger) arse of herself.

( .Yeti. El amor en los tiempos del cólera, Thu 5 Oct 2017, 10:00, archived)

if you weren't stuck outside the civilised world I'd recommend you to listen to Eddie Mair tearing into Amber Rudd about it
around 20 mins in
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 5 Oct 2017, 10:28, archived)

I'd probably enjoy that,
if Eddie Mair weren't such an insufferable prick.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Thu 5 Oct 2017, 11:00, archived)

wrong again, mm

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Thu 5 Oct 2017, 11:37, archived)