I'm saying that there's a core of extremists who cause troubleand there are a lot of 'ordinary' people who don't cause trouble but support the extremists' views
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emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Thu 20 May 2010, 10:31,
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no that's bollocks.the BNP is a party based purely on extremist and racist views. Its supporters, whilst not all personally committing extremist acts still support the party's inherent racist outlook. The majority of muslims do not support violence or islamic extremism. Islam, like most religions, is fundamentally based on well intentioned values and the majority of its followers are decent people. However like any religious text the Quran is open to interpretation and abuse. Fundamentalism is dangerous in any religion and saying that all muslims support violent extremism is the same as saying all christians support the "god hates fags" brigade. You cannot draw comparisons between an entire faith and an extremist minority party.
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Damien's Hearse,
Thu 20 May 2010, 10:43,
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Yeah, what he saidYou have clearly been awake longer than me
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SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever,
Thu 20 May 2010, 10:50,
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I've talked with so-called "moderate" Muslims who as soon as you mention Salman Rushdiesay "Oh, of course he should die for what he said, it's unforgivable" and BNP voters with more black friends that I have.
Just because Islam's a religion doesn't mean that it doesn't have some pretty abhorrent ideas at its core. I've read the Koran and every other chapter mentions that unbelievers should die by sword and fire. It's right there in their manifesto, and there's always going to be a percentage of "ordinary" muslims who support that.
(Just because Islam's a religion doesn't mean that it doesn't have some pretty abhorrent ideas at its core. I've read the Koran and every other chapter mentions that unbelievers should die by sword and fire. It's right there in their manifesto, and there's always going to be a percentage of "ordinary" muslims who support that.
emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Thu 20 May 2010, 11:04,
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Not really, thoughMuch like Christianity, the vast majority support the core values and beliefs of the Koran, but accept that times move on and some of its teachings are outdated and impractical. I really don't think that the entire muslim following will be ready to burn your flag if you draw a picture of their prophet, but a few do, and if that's deemed offensive to them, then...fair enough, really. Much like I wouldn't condemn my fried for believing in abstinence.
There are a few extremists who do take things to far, but the majority don't. I understand free speech, and how important that is to the western world, but I also believe in respect, and I'm not sure making a huge thing out of this is entirely cool. No, we shouldn't be stopped if we want to draw a picture of Mohammed, then again it seems pretty rude to take it to this kind of extreme.
/My two pence
(There are a few extremists who do take things to far, but the majority don't. I understand free speech, and how important that is to the western world, but I also believe in respect, and I'm not sure making a huge thing out of this is entirely cool. No, we shouldn't be stopped if we want to draw a picture of Mohammed, then again it seems pretty rude to take it to this kind of extreme.
/My two pence
SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever,
Thu 20 May 2010, 10:48,
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I'm not talking about one postI'm talking about turning the whole board into some kind of hate-shrine. It's a pretty extremist response, really...
( SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever,
Thu 20 May 2010, 11:11,
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Posting pictures online!This is truly an extremist response on a par with the 7/7 bombings, or the burning of embassies. I had no idea we were so dangerous.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Thu 20 May 2010, 11:14,
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Oh you know what I meanIt's just a bit much, seems excessive, that's all.
( SugarSpunSister Yeah, whatever,
Thu 20 May 2010, 11:18,
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