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# the reason is treason
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 15:42, archived)
#
And punishable with more reason
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 15:44, archived)
# with a need for speed
In other news, the Daily Mail's been a bit too enthusiastic in its stealing pics from the internet... Again...
www.theregister.co.uk/2010/05/26/twitpic_mail/
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 15:45, archived)
# Yes
I tweeted that earlier. I find it a bit odd though that anyone puts anything of value on Twitpic. They explicitly state that whilst you remain the copyright holder of the image you give complete usage rights to the operators of Twitpic.
This does not excuse the Fail for claiming that anything on Twitpic is public domain. The twats.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 15:56, archived)
# I thought that you had to give any image hosting site rights to use the image,
or else you'd be able to sue them for hosting it in the first place. Or something.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:00, archived)
# You may have to.
Twitpic are a bit naughty as in they claim full commercial usage rights. It's a bit dodgy. Even so, It's not public domain and the Mail had no right to use it.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:19, archived)
# Yeah like she'll get her money
This is exactly the prollem with the DEB.

"You stole my pic."

"No I didn't."

"You did. You owe me dollar."

"No I don't."

"I'll sue."

"Go on then. I have an army of lawyers. You are a freelancer."

"Erm ... *whine*"
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 15:57, archived)
# I reckon your assessment is correct as far as it goes...
but there are many ways to persuade a publication to change its 'policies'.
For instance, the Mail has online message boards...
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:02, archived)
# ... on which they will not print comments that they do not like.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:15, archived)
# You're right.
Still, if they received thousands of complaints every single day that's going to get old very quickly. I really do think there are ways to bring pressure to bear in these situations.
We're all kind of feeling our way forward... lots of people on here have had stuff used without permission and have even had their pics 'copyrighted' by some organizations, and we've had to find ways to respond which encourage better behaviour from the biggest offenders. A threat of legal action against Murdoch or whatever is a joke, but there are other ways to bring pressure to bear and we need to keep trying, otherwise everything posted online will be fair game for those worthless cunts to steal and profit from. Hell, most of us aren't even pushing for payment, just fair attribution.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:26, archived)
# "otherwise everything posted online will be fair game for those worthless cunts to steal and profit from"
It would be forgivable for a naiive person to think that this is exactly the intention.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:30, archived)
# It wouldn't be so bad
were it not for the fact the Murdoch has 'decided' that people need to start paying to get their news online.
Fine, that's up to the consumer, but if they're paying someone to see stuff I've made then I want some fucking credit at the very least, and I'm by no means alone in that.
It's still kind of frontier territory on the web, there's still a lot of lines to be drawn, which is why I think this situation might be open to influence, and why I definitely think it's worth being stubborn and awkward about it.
(, Wed 26 May 2010, 16:42, archived)