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# I never understood
why he doesn't just adjust his microphone stand to be a little bit shorter so that he can reach it properly

other than the fact that he's a fucking talentless waste of skin who should be drowned in a bucket, that is
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:23, archived)
# true
he always looks like he's about to suck cock
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:27, archived)
# they wouldnt trust him to operate a complicated piece of equipment like a microphone stand
(benito vaselini no not that one, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:32, archived)
# Talentless frontman of one of the most successful bands in the last 20 years.
7000.
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:32, archived)
# If that's your measure of talent
then yeah, he's right up there with SuBo and Jedward
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:36, archived)
# You're not seriously suggesting you think Oasis are unsuccessful?
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:40, archived)
# SuBo's incredibly successful
I'd just rather gouge out my eardrums with another man's cock than listen to her sing
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:41, archived)
# Completely carried by his - admittedly very talented - brother.
Posturing twerp. Gives it all the 'street level Manc' crap and as soon as he's got a bit of cash he pisses off to London, marries an All Saint and starts a fashion house.

Yeah bravo. Sticking true to your roots there.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:36, archived)
# Noel is a better song writer, that's a given.
Liam still is a talented singer, and songs he's wrote have been just as successful.
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:43, archived)
# I fear we are bound never to agree on this.
My personal take on things - go back to the 90s when the great Oasis/Blur debate was in full swing. Oasis won that in terms of pure commercial success.

Since then, Damon Albarn has gone on, through Blur, solo work, The Good The Bad and the Queen, Monkey Journey to the West, and Gorrilaz, to push the creative boundaries of his music, creating genuinely new and inspirational sounds and generally advancing the artform significantly.

Meanwhile, Liam and co have been grinding out the same stuff, album after album, until only the most die-hard of fans stubbornly insist that they retain any relevance as creative artists.

Commercially successful yes, due to the hard core religiously buying everything they release, but these days there's far too much confusion of commercial success and intrinsic worth.

What's the story. I'll give you that. That was a good album. Everything before or since - hugely overrated.

IMHO.

Rant over. Sorry for going on. I feel better for that, though.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:52, archived)
# No no no.
Whats the story was also crap.
(I helped save b3ta! 4Q just lurking, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:55, archived)
# ^
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:57, archived)
# Over a decade and a half of arguing the toss with Oasis fans I have grudgingly been persuaded to concede this point.
Grudgingly.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:01, archived)
# Third most bought album in the UK.
Behind Sgt Pepper's and Queen's Greatest Hits.
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:02, archived)
# and they're both crap, too
(I helped save b3ta! 4Q just lurking, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:08, archived)
# In a way i do agree.
But in Oasis' defense, that's the music they like making. For them there's no need to push creative boundaries.
To me, the new Beady Eye album is about as creative as Liam will get, it's not Oasis, but it's very similar, and there's nothing wrong with it.
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:59, archived)
# Have to admit to no real appetite to chase up his new stuff ;o)
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:08, archived)
# Haha, it was Radio2's album of the week last week.
I was genuinely surprised at the lack of difference to Oasis, having lost, arguably, a vital member.
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:10, archived)
# Definitely Maybe is a surprisingly good album
if you speed it up by a third.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:07, archived)
# I'm constantly baffled by my brains inability to enjoy "mainstream success"
Susan Boyle, James Blunt, Oasis, Robbie Williams, Cheryl Cole, all of it is almost impossible for me to listen to, and I really can't explain it.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:40, archived)
# because it
is a triumph of marketing over content? it's vacuous shite.
(prostheses, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:45, archived)
# but so many people seem to love it and throw money at it
it's not fair, I want to sell to the idiot masses :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:50, archived)
# Yeah, the people with different taste to you are idiots.
One of my friends doesn't like butter in his sandwiches, the fucking thicko!
(I helped save b3ta! Nathanial Hornblower, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 14:54, archived)
# Godwin imminent ;o)
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:03, archived)
# it's a turn of phrase, not an attack
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 3 Mar 2011, 15:05, archived)