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# Whatever it was is lost to us now.
That primal event smashed most of what we use as a reference for time and space.
Working it out now is sort of like looking at the toilet bowl and trying to extrapolate
what you had for dinner the night before from the scant stains left on the sides.
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Tue 18 Mar 2014, 23:01, archived)
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That's easy if you had beetroot. It's either beetroot, or you've got ass cancer.

In other news, the media were about as inaccurate as ever with their reporting of this, but it is big news. "Very" would be overstating it, but certainly big. It may be a signature of inflation, it may be proof that alternatives to inflation that don't produce gravitational radiation (ekpyrosis, R^2, etc.) are wrong. Or it may be proof that we have an odd form of isocurvature. Or much stronger magnetic fields than we thought. *Probably* inflation, r=0.1 rather than the 0.2 they're reporting, and much softer running than their results suggest, once you dig through it to find what they didn't tell us.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Tue 18 Mar 2014, 23:18, archived)
# The 0.2 was the estimate in the original paper that I knew of, via a small book, I read years ago.
As to the exact amount, I agree with you that it might have other sources for the observed phenomena. And there was too little in this new observation to nail it down. However, almost all the other models had stated there would be none, yet there it is, be it ass-cancer or beetroots.
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Tue 18 Mar 2014, 23:52, archived)
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Ass cancer beats all.

Also, r=0.2 is way too high and is in strong tension with other datasets, Planck in particular. It can only be reconciled by adding a couple of extra parameters to the model which, obviously, loosens error bars all around until *everyone*'s toilet is covered in stains and I defy the man who can tell beetroot from ass-cancer from explosive diarrhoea.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 19 Mar 2014, 0:37, archived)
# Yeah, I had seen something like that in a couple of write ups.
Not a math wank or physics nerd, nor do I have teh ass-cancer. But, from what I understood everyone would be covered, so to speak. Plancks spread out uniformly everywhere and the dilation would eventually pull towards some kind of entropic halt at some point, leading to disassociation of the whole works. Energy and mass become impossible to express, as the distance (if that is the right word in this case) becomes too great for any kind of interactions (gravity, magnetism, etc). I hardly have the background to say more than that about what I had read up to, and I might be better at giving you a nice recipe for beetroots that won't cause extreme bowel expansion.
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Wed 19 Mar 2014, 0:58, archived)
# one suspects you're extracting the michael from one
this would be a commendable step

in any event, i have to be at my regrettably non-cosmology related job in eight hours time so i should probably go and sleep. but recipes involving beetroots that involve neither bowel expansion or the appearance of massive haemorrhaging would be greatly appreciated.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 19 Mar 2014, 1:13, archived)
# Ok, snooze well and spazz this for later...
Baking soda, soak the diced roots for 30min before boiling with a teaspoon per two cups of roots in cold water to cover, rinse and boil in fresh water until tender. Color changes a bit, but it will cut the gas production. Some add it to the boiling water, but you can taste it that way, yech!
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Wed 19 Mar 2014, 1:23, archived)