See proof of your absolute wrongness above (below your ninja edited post).Your assertion that I'm employing straw men is actually, I'm sad* to say, an argument from ignorance on your part.
*Delighted.
(*Delighted.
brb Learn Ukrainian and prepare for a referendum,
Wed 26 Oct 2022, 20:26,
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You often make generalizations based on your biases and then draw conclusions based on those generalizations. You do it often and publicly. Expect some pushback occasionally.
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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Wed 26 Oct 2022, 20:49,
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You could say the same for everybody. At least my biases are supported by evidence.In my experience, people who complain about imaginary straw men are often attempting to shift the argument away from the actual topic, which, to remind you, is the irony of complaining about environmentalists being selfish.
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Wed 26 Oct 2022, 21:03,
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If you don't think what you're doing (in this thread in particular) is engaging in pseudo-complex strawman arguments,then you simply don't understand the concept. And as mofaha said, it's simply pointless trying to engage with you when you're in this headspace, so this is my first and last contribution to this shitshow of a thread.
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Wed 26 Oct 2022, 21:49,
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Just to reiterate, I have not employed any straw men, and it is evident that those complaining about imaginary straw men are diverting the argument away from the actual topic.I offer this dictionary definition of straw man in the hope that it might help to educate those persisting in its misuse:
straw man
noun
1. An argument or opponent set up so as to be easily refuted or defeated.
2. A doll or scarecrow (particularly one stuffed with straw).
3. An insubstantial concept, idea, endeavour or argument, particularly one deliberately set up to be weakly supported, so that it can be easily knocked down; especially to impugn the strength of any related thing or idea.
If my argument is pseudo-complex then it should be easy to tear down.
As my argument is actually reality-based simplicity, it was exceptionally easy to find supporting evidence.
Anti-environmentalism is a typically right wing position. This opinion is well grounded in reality and is not just something I made up in order to... ...tear my own argument down..?
Go to the Daily Mail's comment section, look up stories about brown people in dinghies, the royal family, and Downing Street. See what you find. Look at what those same commentators say on the subject of climate change protestors.
It's all so predictable that I find it astonishing to think that anyone here finds this even vaguely controversial.
(straw man
noun
1. An argument or opponent set up so as to be easily refuted or defeated.
2. A doll or scarecrow (particularly one stuffed with straw).
3. An insubstantial concept, idea, endeavour or argument, particularly one deliberately set up to be weakly supported, so that it can be easily knocked down; especially to impugn the strength of any related thing or idea.
If my argument is pseudo-complex then it should be easy to tear down.
As my argument is actually reality-based simplicity, it was exceptionally easy to find supporting evidence.
Anti-environmentalism is a typically right wing position. This opinion is well grounded in reality and is not just something I made up in order to... ...tear my own argument down..?
Go to the Daily Mail's comment section, look up stories about brown people in dinghies, the royal family, and Downing Street. See what you find. Look at what those same commentators say on the subject of climate change protestors.
It's all so predictable that I find it astonishing to think that anyone here finds this even vaguely controversial.
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Wed 26 Oct 2022, 22:20,
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This Venn diagram.<img src="www2.b3ta.com/host/creative/100121/1666631240/I can't be arsed to make this image" width="visible to the ISS">
1. People against protestors gluing themselves to trains and throwing soup about and generally being an arse
2. Mail/Sun readers who comment on all the brown people in are country
See those two circles? They don't occupy exactly the same position. But yes, there is quite an overlap.
(1. People against protestors gluing themselves to trains and throwing soup about and generally being an arse
2. Mail/Sun readers who comment on all the brown people in are country
See those two circles? They don't occupy exactly the same position. But yes, there is quite an overlap.
Turtle Power & Knuckles,
Wed 26 Oct 2022, 23:36,
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^TGGIExcept for the 'generally being an arse' thing. Effective protests attract attention and cause disruption.
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Thu 27 Oct 2022, 14:19,
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