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# how on earth do you prefer to use linux on normal computers?
and anyway, i could smoke if i wanted. and other b3tans bought me beer the other day. yaaaaaaaaaay.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:33, archived)
# it works for me.
:)

and i'm used to the nonsensical nonsense that it has.


and i'm not running redhat.
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:34, archived)
# are you running windows as an emulator?
(I helped save b3ta! ?, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:34, archived)
# dont need to.
i can use wine for some of the video nonsense.

but some lovevly people reimplemented quicktime. and it's faster.
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:36, archived)
# oh yes,
is this that crossover thing that costs $20 though?
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:36, archived)
# no, mplayer now supports quicktime (has done for a couple of months though)
it's a right bastard to get working though at times.

www.mplayerhq.hu/

not for the faint of heart.
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:37, archived)
# it looks far too scary.
why can't they just give me a nice rpm that'll work for suse?
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:39, archived)
# xine rpms.
cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/


mplayer is compiled so it doesnt slow down. at all.

also. i've got about 140+ codecs installed.
and quicktime, and mediaplayer 9.

:D
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:42, archived)
# what player are you using right now
xine might be a nicer choice than mplayer.

xine.sourceforge.net/

:)
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:40, archived)
# well, i think i've got them both installed,
it's just a matter of me not having tried anything other than double clicking on the files in kde.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:43, archived)
# after a few goes and realising it's 100% of EVIL, i gave suse8.2 a go.
it's actually fairly nice and tolerable, but just not usuable for most things.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:35, archived)
# oh ans secondly.
i have a p3 450. it's a bit fucked if i want to do more than one thing with windows. with linux i've burned cds and watched films. at the same time.
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:36, archived)
# linux won't play any video files in avi format,
i can hear but not see. the only ones i can see are mpegs, it seems. and despite only having 112megs of ram (which is less than the minimum spec for xp, i'm pretty sure), windows copes a lot better with doing lots of things at once than linux so far.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:38, archived)
# mines a bit horrifically customized.
barely anything running, new shiny kernel, premtive patches, etc etc :)
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:39, archived)
# have you tried xine?
It copes with most things I've tried it with so far (dvd, divx, avi, wmv, other stuff). Probably the best linux media player I've seen.
(I helped save b3ta! barnesy, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:43, archived)
# i'll reboot back and give it a go.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:46, archived)
# it's ok.
i prefer mplayer.

it isn't as friendly but it's a lot more powerful.
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:46, archived)
# I'll have a look.
I need to sort out my media players - something has broken xine's dvd playback. I wussed out and got someone else to install it, so I'm a bit stuffed!
(I helped save b3ta! barnesy, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:51, archived)
# mplayer! big w/y/h!
mplayer is the finest piece of software.

mate o' mine, when he can't get a video to run on windoze, he boots up linux and mplayer just yums it up!

me, i haven't had windoze installed here for 3 years and there's little i can't do with linux. what the hell is it you people need to do? get viruses? install spyware?
(nugchuts, Sun 3 Aug 2003, 0:04, archived)
# oo i like linux they are nice to use
all dos styley
(I helped save b3ta! ?, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:34, archived)
# not really.
i use a windowing system. called X.

void.printf.net/~tef/theme/shot.jpg
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:35, archived)
# HOW DO YOU DO ANYTHING?
WHAT IS THERE TO CLICK ON TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN?!?
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:37, archived)
# dont need it.
:)

it's a tiny bit on the minimalistic side.
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:38, archived)
# Minimalist Equals Fast!!!
(DJ FISHEEP, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:46, archived)
# heh
I was going to ask you how you were getting on with that. Maybe I shouldn't.
(I helped save b3ta! barnesy, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:34, archived)
# actually, fairly well.
it's just that the gimp scares me, and i don't understand much about what goes on behind it all. i can manage point and click from the kde menu, and installing things through YaST2, but not doing anything properly. i tried installing a load of stuff from source earlier, and not a damnable thing actually worked.
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:36, archived)
# there is a book on the interweb called
grokking the gimp.

it's nice
(I helped save b3ta! tef, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:38, archived)
# well, the only thing the transform tool will do is rotate,
yet it tells me in the tooltip that it'll do all the things the free transform in photoshop does.

EXCEPT IT DOESN'T ARRRRRRRRRGH
(I helped save b3ta! bananaman, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:44, archived)
# try double clicking
on the button for it - sounds like you haven't got the tool options window up. It'll be available off the dialogs menu on the main gimp window as well I think
(I helped save b3ta! barnesy, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:46, archived)
# yeah
I'm glad I stuck with the GIMP but it wasn't at all easy to begin with. I've had trouble with installing some stuff as well. But I keep finding that I'm too lazy to look into these things in more detail, and I'm happier with what I have got working than I've ever been with windows. I really ought to put more effort into learning what's really going on, but the reason I like suse is that I haven't really had to.
(I helped save b3ta! barnesy, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:41, archived)
# I like the gimp,
it works on this PC, Photoshop kills it.
(goat thinks you're shit, Sat 2 Aug 2003, 23:43, archived)
# installing from source
if you get a source rpm (*.src.rpm), just run(as root) 'rpm --rebuild this.is.my.program.src.rpm'

it will bung the compiled rpm in /usr/src/RPM/RPMS/arch (where arch = your architecture - i386 etc.)

it it is just a source archive (normally *.tgz), you would normally extract it (tar xvfz proggie.tgz), go into the new directory, run './configure', then 'make' and finally as root 'make install'

bob's your uncle.

if i were you, i'd get mandrake - there is much better english support available (suse is VERY german) and it's got urpmi. if you wanna install gimp, for example, you just type 'urpmi gimp' and it will download it/ask you for the cd. that was it. windoze, beat that
(nugchuts, Sun 3 Aug 2003, 0:18, archived)