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# B3ta Stats for Feb
Successful Hits For Entire Site 8,715,530
Average Hits Per Day 335,212
Home Page Hits 120,996
Page Views (Impressions) 769,289
Average Per Day 29,588
Average Visit Length 00:18:30
Unique Visitors 160,293
Visitors Who Visited Once 132,689
Visitors Who Visited More Than Once 27,604
Data transfered: 116 GB

This is desperate. Who is going to supply 116GB+ per month for no cash?
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 5:37, archived)
# fuck...
...ing hell!!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! DaWolfey, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 5:48, archived)
# How much are we talking for 116 GB?
I for one have no idea what that costs.
(I helped save b3ta! PeterSeychelles, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 5:49, archived)
# Most UK ISPs seem to charge
£10 per Gig for a co-located server...

US ones seem a bit cheaper, but still lots of money.

Rob - where is the biggest hit coming from? Looking at the code for the board, each post carries a 700byte overhead with all that repeated JavaScript... just moving that to a function would save a lot of bytes.
(I helped save b3ta! chthonic, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 5:56, archived)
# Roughly half from html files
& half from the viral swf content.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:00, archived)
# if every regular on this board
could host a viral swf each, then could that help to halve b3ta's bandwidth without impacting too much on everyone elses?

I have two hosts so I can take 2 big files if that would help.
(I helped save b3ta! izb posting occasional messages since 2001, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:24, archived)
# Or move the javascript out into randomly selected files from different hosts.
Difficult to maintain, heath-robinson load-balancing approach to it, but hey - it's an idea.
(I helped save b3ta! izb posting occasional messages since 2001, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:34, archived)
# westmaster.com
will do 150Gb for $595/mo
clicky

Not free, but that £425 a month which is a bit less than b3ta is incurring at the moment, isn't it?
(I helped save b3ta! chthonic, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 5:51, archived)
# Hmmm
12 x 425 = £5100

Hmm. If we could get 500 people to pay £10 per year... Argh!
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 5:53, archived)
# Tell me where to send it
and it's in the post
(I helped save b3ta! pabulum, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:00, archived)
# That goes for me
too.
(I helped save b3ta! PeterSeychelles, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:01, archived)
# Thanks Guys.
At the moment I am fielding for opinion/options rather than cash. Currently there is a partner in the b3ta project who hasn't handed ownership of the project over. I can't actually raise cash until this happens. Hopefully this will be soon.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:06, archived)
# 500 "Friends of b3ta"
really doesn't seem that many when you look at the figures.
It's less than 2% of those visiting more than once this month.
There definitely seems to be a very willing hard core, without having to make it a subscription site.
(I helped save b3ta! pabulum, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:13, archived)
# To be honest...
At 85p a month, who would say no?
(sasquatch, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:00, archived)
# That's a
"yes, I'm in", by the way
(sasquatch, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:06, archived)
# They are even cheaper
if you go for a slow server and pay bandwidth separately:

here they list a PIII with 128Mb ram for $45 a month, and 162Gb transfer for $240 a month...

roughly 200 quid a month.

Mostly they seem to host 'adult' sites :)
(I helped save b3ta! chthonic, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:00, archived)
# mate,
i'd pay £10 a month if it meant you could carry on without everyone having to subscribe.
(redifusion, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:06, archived)
# Yep. I'd rather an appeal / Guardian Angel
over a subscribe route.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:11, archived)
# I'll pay
I'm more of a lurker than anything else(due to an alarming lack of photoshop skills), but this site keeps me sane in my mindnumbingly dull job, so I'll happily contribute.
(I helped save b3ta! Monkeyboy, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 6:56, archived)
# I'd pay
my tenner for the year, no worries. Hows about an annual appeal like on Blue Peter?
(I helped save b3ta! Stella_R_Twa, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:15, archived)
# Perhaps....
... We could all donate and then get a special little symbol next to our username, like they do on Popbitch. So we can feel superior.

P.S. How do Popbitch fund their bandwidth?
(I helped save b3ta! blah, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:19, archived)
# guess who thought up the PB appeal?
It was me. Yay. (but I was only ripping off the blogger appeal.)

Anyway PB have said that they'd help promote a b3ta appeal, but as I said I need to get permission from mysterious partner before going ahead.
(I helped save b3ta! rob, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:22, archived)
# Oh...
... I'll get back in my box.

Is this 'mysterious partner' Stephen Byers by an chance? He seems to be involved in everything recently.
(I helped save b3ta! blah, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:28, archived)
# In fact
that's about the only thing he hasn't denied
(I helped save b3ta! mrbrong, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:34, archived)
# I'm in for a tenner.
Also have an Internet dummy suggestion.

I don't have a clue how it really works, but I know you guys do.

I've got my own domain with it's own bandwith limit, and for sure I never get near hitting it.

I'd happily chuck in that (1gb). What I innocently imagine is some clever script running one my site, or yours, which could use the bandwidth from mine (and anybody elses who wants to donate theirs).

Is that feasible? Could you do that without either party losing control?

Otherwise, I've got about 40mb of space, you're welcome to chuck any bits and pieces you want to into that, and again, I'm sure there are others prepared to do the same . . . right guys?
(I helped save b3ta! Not Pineapple anymore, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:42, archived)
# aye
I've got 30Mb of reliable space sitting almost unused with unlimited bandwidth.
(I helped save b3ta! izb posting occasional messages since 2001, Wed 27 Feb 2002, 7:53, archived)