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[challenge entry] WAR


Fixed!!

From the Penguins Vs Monkeys challenge. See all 433 entries (closed)

(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:17, archived)
# thats better, most woosome ;)
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:18, archived)
# TJ:
Thanks for the email. All the pictures used in the below article were
sent in by readers so we were unaware of the source. A link has now been
put to b3ta in the article.
Thanks again,
Corinne Abrams

-----Original Message-----
From: xxx [mailto:xxxxx]
Sent: 06 July 2005 18:22
To: Sun Talkback
Subject: b3ta


how about a friendly nod to the contributors on the b3ta.com message
board
for spending time creating these paris 2012 bid pictures that you are
using?

re :http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005310173,00.html
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:19, archived)
# well done that man
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:21, archived)
# blimey
a reply.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:21, archived)
# ...
"Thanks for your email. All the pictures in the below-mentioned article
were sent in by readers, so we were unaware of the source.

We have added a link to your site under the picture shown on your
homepage.

Thanks again,

Corinne Abrams
Sun Online

-----Original Message-----
From: Vic [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 06 July 2005 17:48
To: Syndication Enquiries
Cc: Sun Talkback
Subject: www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005310173,00.html


I alert you to the images posted in the following article on The Sun
Online
website: www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005310173,00.html

The images appear to be copyrighted to News Groups Newspapers Ltd and/or
its
licensors. You appear to have taken these images from the hard working
board
members of B3ta.com without any credit to them as individuals
whatsoever. Go
on, stick a cheeky link on the page to B3ta.com so your readers can
enjoy
the wonderful work that appears there on a day to day basis."
... I must've inherited B3ta and am unaware of it.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:23, archived)
# Great.
Now right-click on them. They're still claiming ownership and copyright on all of the pics they post.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:24, archived)
# that'll be
a standard script implimented across the whole site. I doubt they'd go to the trouble of altering the script to include the source for every individual image.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:30, archived)
# Then
they're breaking the law. If you claimed ownership and copyright of an image they legitimately owned the rights for, they'd sue your ass in a heartbeat.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:31, archived)
# "Copyright 2005 News Group Newspapers Ltd and/or its licensors"
They're not claiming ownership, but stating that its either copyrighted to them OR their licensors, ie, sources from which they license images. I'd imagine that The Sun already pay a fee to the copyright owners of any 'shopped images, so a b3tan who used the image without permission doesn't really have any right to start piping up about ownership or demanding credit unless the image is a totally original piece of work.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:46, archived)
# They don't pay
neither do they credit. That's the point.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:57, archived)
# They don't pay b3tans for using images they've shopped
because b3tans have no claim over shopped images which use source images that've been used without permission.

What you're basically asking for is The Sun to identify a b3tan as being the person who broke the law by shopping a copyrighted image. Which they have done, after b3ta was named as the source.

I think you're confusing 'breaking the law' with 'courtesy'. It'd be courteous of The Sun to give credit to whoever shopped the image, but considering the context of the story which is all about the fact that digital artists are shopping amusing pictures of the French losing the olympic bid and showing the pictures to illustrate this, they're hardly trying to make out that they own them.
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 20:10, archived)
# Uh
What is it good for?

Showing those cursed monkeys what for! Woo!
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:19, archived)
# Brill
One down, 3 million to go
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:19, archived)
# Arf, but big
read lemony's guide to optimisation: lemony.co.uk/Optimisation/animations.htm
(, Wed 6 Jul 2005, 19:21, archived)