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# try to pick up an old iRiver h120
20GB, even new they were cheaper than an iPod, and it's 20Gb storage, a radio, recorder, has optional fibreoptic in/out as well as normal ones, battery life is about 1.5 x ipod battery life, plays all the main codecs (mp3, wma, ogg, vorbis, etc), and it's a fat32 drive with no bullshit so you can just plug it into any windows machine and it's a harddrive as well as a player (which means you can plug and play to liberate other people's music with no iTunes or Creative interface restricting you). The only problem with iRiver is they realised they were selling far better kit than apple cheaper than apple, so the subsequent h320/340 range (which plays back divx movies amongst other things) they upped the price to apple levels. Hence seek out a h120/140 secondhand - they're handy things, and the only major drawback is you don't have a wheely thing, but then apple are high on looks and low on features
(I helped save b3ta! WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Wed 28 Sep 2005, 19:12, archived)
# damn, sounds good
gotta have the plug and play
(I helped save b3ta! cheesemaster a screaming naked asian man driving a semi, Wed 28 Sep 2005, 19:16, archived)
# only other caveat:
I never enabled the iRiver database for search by genre or artist, as a lot of my mp3s are garnered from my old work network, and aren'ttagged right (and can't autoupdate anything from the web now through websense), so I just put folders under Albums (as opposed to singles) which go A-B-C-D, E-F-G-H, etc... so I look up by just going, e.g., P-Q-R-S, Radiohead, Pablo Honey, Creep. So I don't know how good it is.
Mostly I just put it on random play anyway! :)
(I helped save b3ta! WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Wed 28 Sep 2005, 19:19, archived)
# you can plug and play ipods
the only thing that`s shit is that the playlists are generated when you sync, so you can`t just play songs back, and the files are renamed to shit like NXBA.mp3, DADK.mp3 etc.

but they work grand as portable hard disks too - they also work on Linux, which is nice
(I helped save b3ta! Reckless_Rik, Wed 28 Sep 2005, 19:22, archived)
# yeah
I thought they only did the name hashing on apple formatted ones. What a slightly weird feature... oddly itunes ca rename them properly if you reimport them with those names.
(I helped save b3ta! gaijintendo Regular Member, Wed 28 Sep 2005, 19:52, archived)