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# they're quite interested in the kind of language people use
when they think nobody might object.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:12, archived)
# this is b3ta,
where you automatically assume no one will be offended by anything you say.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:15, archived)
# there are fine lines
I highly appreciate the freedom of speech available on b3ta. I am intrigued as to why you use the kind of words you have this evening.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:17, archived)
# i said wog entirely in context of someone talking racistly in the gif above, completing their scentance
and use of the word darky up there ^ is entirely in an ironic way.

I don't notice this sort of "intrigue" into people making homophobic or paedophilic comments.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:23, archived)
# it suppose it depends on my state of mind as to whether I can be bothered
and I tend to think of you as someone who isn't going to get defensive or annoyed by rational questioning.

I'm not being a race nazi (ha), I was just wondering what your rationale was.

And I suppose paedophilic comments aren't really as close to the bone as racist or homophobic comments are for me.

EDIT: Having just checked back, that gif had nothing racist in it at all. YOu just put your own ideas in.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:27, archived)
# i'm not at all offended
but I'll defend what i did fiercely before i make any sort of appology.

Just look at it as though I have as little interest in racism as I do in paedophilia or homophobia so I can comfortably joke about it.

And nazi race? My granny was a jew shipped out of germany by Schindler. (as in the one with the list in the spielburg film)
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:32, archived)
# as my great grandfather was in a concentration camp
and you surprise me even more by using objectifying terms like "wog" or "darkie", even ironically, if you appreciate that kind of irrational hatred that comes with a fear of unknown peoples.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:36, archived)
# In every possible sense of the words,
I'm off to bed, night
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:37, archived)
# night then
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:40, archived)
# and just for the sake of rounding things off
On a personal level, I just don't care either way about race, it's this polite middle class surrey upbringing, I find the idea of racism ludicrous enough to be acceptable irony.
I'd go into more waffle, but like i said, i'm off to bed. Night.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:43, archived)
# I do hope
that he wasn't a guard
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:52, archived)
# and as for the edit, she mentions "all those foreigners hanging around"
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:36, archived)
# that would be Xenophobia
not racism.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:38, archived)
# Which probably tells you
how racist language is more "taboo" than homophobic ones. I don't like either, but I've given up challenging the use of the word "gay" to mean bad* - it's much less "shocking", and so prevalent I can't be bothered any more.

* in the non-b3ta world, that is
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:28, archived)
# so those of us that can comfortably joke about it are a step ahead of the rest?
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:33, archived)
# Yes -
- so long as you're aware of the wider effects of the term, and are using it in a situation [like b3ta] where it's understood by just about everyone who sees it that it *is* ironic.

It sounds shitty, but these things do matter to, say, some guys under my care who would be utterly devastated by an incorrect usage of the term.

[edited to make better sense]
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:35, archived)
# i'm not exactly going to wander around tooting screaming nigger now am i?
yes, i said offensive things on b3ta....oooh....contraversy
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:38, archived)
# that's what I was saying
which is why I put the * in about not complaining about b3tan usage :)

edit: yes, sorry, it was unclear. I meant to say that "I don't like either apart from on b3ta, but..."
(, Thu 1 Dec 2005, 0:39, archived)