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how about...

'the disgrace of a genuinely talented celebrity.'

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chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:14, archived)

well its an essay about celebrity

and the fickleness and stupidity of the public so that doesn't quite fit but cheers. i liked him, he was a right cunt.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:16, archived)

oh well... I didn't have the context!

my gf is a teacher and recently did a discussion with her 5th year kids about celebrity... "does celebrity have any relation to talent?" was a question I suggested...

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chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:19, archived)

it blatantly doesn't.

not even slightly.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:21, archived)

indeed...

these are kids who don't read books... and can barely make it through a whole issue of "Heat". They just don't question ANYTHING!!!

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chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:24, archived)

i ahve a copy of 'heat' right here

i am using it as a source. also Viz and Loaded. the last essay I wrote was on 'Jackass', i totally use what i know.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:25, archived)

jackass?

..now you're talking. Johnnny has his finger on the zeitgeist. On a skateboard. With stilts. And a stick of dynamite up his ass. Jumping over two tons of raw sewage.

Jackass rocks.

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chaotic_illuminator proud spacehopperist, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:29, archived)

i got a mark equivalent to a first for it

which was god, for an essay written drunk in an hour.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:30, archived)

He's on this years Gumball 3000 again with Doktored

It starts soon.

(Ann_Onnymouse, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:30, archived)

yeah i read that

and a feature film is meant to be out in July

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:31, archived)

Depending on the age of the lecturer

Either Profumo or Nixon when they were caught out

(Ann_Onnymouse, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:20, archived)

pro-

who?

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:24, archived)

John Profumo, you may have seen the film 'Scandal'

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/politicspast/story/0,9061,471383,00.html

(Ann_Onnymouse, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:27, archived)

i don't watch clever films

but i'll check the link out.

edit: i'm gonna use that, thats pretty useful.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:32, archived)

I wouldn't call it a 'clever' film.

It focused on the sex side of the scandal rather than the politics. I'd say it was a C4 film rather than a BBC2 one. Not a C5 one though.

Basically it's a lying politician (oxymoron), one of the earliest to get really caught out.
In a paragraph - "John Profumo, Secretary of State for War, had an affair with a prostitute Christine Keeler. It was found out that Christine Keeler also knew a Soviet intelligence officer. Profumo denied this in the House of Commons but it was proved true and Profumo was forced to resign."

Nixon may be easier to write about if you know a bit about his case. Then there's Clinton more recently. In the UK Archer's been sent to jail but everyone hates him and he is nasty.

(Ann_Onnymouse, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:41, archived)

this makes me seem stupid but

what exactly was archer's crime?

(in my defence, i didn't live in britain till september)

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 22:57, archived)

Archer's crime

was being a crooked, lying swindler all his life.

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crab_bloke), Mon 22 Apr 2002, 23:01, archived)

if that was a crime

half my parents friends would be in prison. as would all plumbers.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 23:05, archived)

He was in a different league

to your average plumber mate, believe me.

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crab_bloke), Mon 22 Apr 2002, 23:10, archived)

you couldn't actually

tell me the frigging answer could you? cheers.

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mikeisbrill, Mon 22 Apr 2002, 23:16, archived)