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# Christmas.
If you can't say Christ then you can't have any cake.
(I helped save b3ta! LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:22, archived)
# I said
Xmas as that's exactly what I meant as it's the invented version. But it's moot as I don't celebrate either. Sad but true, it's a foul time of year that only perpetuates the idea that greed is good in Western children, it should be banned along with reality TV.

Oh and I don't eat cake, you're swinging and missing mister! ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:26, archived)
# See I thought it was a festival of giving,
and celebrating and strengthening family bonds.

Just because it's been commercialised extensively doesn't invalidate it as a secular holiday.
(I helped save b3ta! chenobble rocking his explorer beard on, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:28, archived)
# I've no problem
I give gifts to my kid and family's kids as they have no understanding of my views. I don't like it but I do it. I don't participate inanything else of it and I certainly don't need an excuse to do no work for a month and get pissed.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:37, archived)
# You do know
that Xmas is not a modern day attempt to take the 'Christ' out of Christmas?

It's a very old form of the word, coming from the Greek (I think) as their word for Christ begins with an X.

Whatever mistaken reason people use it for now, it was not originally designed as a word for a secular Christmas.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:30, archived)
#
The word "Christ" and its compounds, including "Christmas", have been abbreviated for at least the past 1,000 years, long before the modern "Xmas" was commonly used. "Christ" was often written as "XP" or "Xt"; there are references in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle as far back as 1021 AD.
(I helped save b3ta! Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:31, archived)
# I sense
the sweet aroma of copy and paste.
(I helped save b3ta! Mystery_Bob, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:34, archived)
# No, that's how I usually talk
...

you got me
(I helped save b3ta! Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:35, archived)
# You live and (to ) learn
I thought it was an American bastardisation.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:40, archived)
#
Some people believe that the term is part of an effort to "take Christ out of Christmas" or to literally "cross out Christ"; it is also seen as evidence of the secularization of Christmas or a vehicle for pushing political correctness, or as a symptom of the commercialization of the holiday (as the abbreviation has long been used by retailers).

(I helped save b3ta! Master Of Turnips. Only gays and morons believe in ghosts., Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:41, archived)
# oh.
I truly thought it was simply another effort of the ham shanks to distance themselves as much as possible from Anglo / Saxon / Jutish English so they can finally say they invented it and re-write some more history.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:44, archived)