I hate teabut sky tea makes my coffee more expensive :(
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chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:10,
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No, you've lost me now.Can you repeat that without using metaphors?
Burn the BBC worker
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Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:11,
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Burn the BBC worker
Haha'nings sir
anyways...
commercial telly is mostly funded by advertising.
The cost of the advertising is part of the price you pay for goods.
I don't watch Sky.
I do buy things in shops.
The things I buy in shops,advertised on Sky, fund Sky
They cost more
This is unfair
(anyways...
commercial telly is mostly funded by advertising.
The cost of the advertising is part of the price you pay for goods.
I don't watch Sky.
I do buy things in shops.
The things I buy in shops,advertised on Sky, fund Sky
They cost more
This is unfair
chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:18,
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Wow, that's a confusing new angle.Good stuff.
How about this:
mass media advertising popularises the products and brings the price down again, through the effect of economies of scale.
Oh, and you might as well say that's you're losing money when a shop installs a wheelchair ramp, since you don't personally benefit from it; but if it makes the business more successful, it potentially lowers prices or gives you some other indirect benefit.
Then again, over-popular businesses become a bit bland and impersonal, failing to satisfy anybody very much by trying to please everybody, so there might be some merit to your argument (which also works against wheelchair ramps).
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Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:21,
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How about this:
mass media advertising popularises the products and brings the price down again, through the effect of economies of scale.
Oh, and you might as well say that's you're losing money when a shop installs a wheelchair ramp, since you don't personally benefit from it; but if it makes the business more successful, it potentially lowers prices or gives you some other indirect benefit.
Then again, over-popular businesses become a bit bland and impersonal, failing to satisfy anybody very much by trying to please everybody, so there might be some merit to your argument (which also works against wheelchair ramps).
But...the more mass media advertising affects the market the more companies will spend on advertising; thus a greater percentage of what we pay will covering the ad budget.
Also, many small producers won't have the finance for large campaigns and will be forced out of the market
soz about the delayed response, kittins were going mad
and I'm not really a commie, honest guv ;)
EDIT: but I love wheelchair ramps
they're great for office chair races :)
(Also, many small producers won't have the finance for large campaigns and will be forced out of the market
soz about the delayed response, kittins were going mad
and I'm not really a commie, honest guv ;)
EDIT: but I love wheelchair ramps
they're great for office chair races :)
chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:37,
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to be fair...I hate having to pay the licence fee, but I do think it's a good thing the BBC is independant and free from relying on commericials, business magnates etc.
Just look at the state of some of the reporting on the American channels :-S
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Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:44,
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Just look at the state of some of the reporting on the American channels :-S
It isn't, really.It has an international commercial wing which gives money to the non-commercial wing, while still using the name BBC, which makes the non-commercial part a kind of huge* publicity stunt to improve the image of the commercial part.
Also it accepted millions of - some currency or other - from the EU recently.
*And compulsory
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Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:52,
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Also it accepted millions of - some currency or other - from the EU recently.
*And compulsory
It is true that World has finaly started making a profitbut it receives nothing from the license fee & the editorial control of the news operation is effectively under the same management as the rest of BBC news
/can only speak from a news point of view blog
(/can only speak from a news point of view blog
chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:10,
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Hmm.I think the BBC is a business, which ought to dare to make the license fee optional and spread its puny little commercial wings. There's no reason to suppose it would turn into another Sky as a result; there's no room in the market for a second Sky, and the BBC has already cornered the market for middle-class niceness and alleged integrity, so presumably it would stay there.
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Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:17,
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Thanks for reminding me about this(
chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:53,
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OKThis seems to have become an argument against all forms of advertising, now, not just the ones that escape your attention like Sky.
Well - it would all hinge on whether people choose advertised products over unfamiliar ones for reasons, or whether you think they're just conditioned like rats. Which depends on your ideas about psychology - it depends if you accept behaviourism and the idea that people can be blindly conditioned.
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Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:58,
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Well - it would all hinge on whether people choose advertised products over unfamiliar ones for reasons, or whether you think they're just conditioned like rats. Which depends on your ideas about psychology - it depends if you accept behaviourism and the idea that people can be blindly conditioned.
HeheheI'm just an idiot trying to hang on to his job ;)
which reminds me I've got to pop in for a bit today :(
(which reminds me I've got to pop in for a bit today :(
chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:04,
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But you dont have to buy Sky tea to buy non-Sky tea
CanonCaliber A big bore,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:25,
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actuallyI don't buy any tea...
nasty stewed leaf juice
;)
(nasty stewed leaf juice
;)
chunderbunny lacking humus since,
Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:39,
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