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# How i see it....

(extended 12' remix)
(I helped save b3ta! frogdoctor learning the hard way since 1972., Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:03, archived)
# they should employ the teabag monster
(I helped save b3ta! plentyofants more ghee, vicar?, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:05, archived)
# The trick is to go to your local wholesaler
and buy a pack of 1500 for about eight quid:D
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:07, archived)
# But then you just get complacent, thinking that there are so many they'll never run out...
...And then they run out eventually and you're stuffed.
(I helped save b3ta! ArghZombies No longer has a Leaky QUIM, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:09, archived)
# yeah but stuffed with tea
mmmmmm tea
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:10, archived)
# A kettle license!!!!
Don't tell the government!!!
they'll introduce it!!

But only in Scotland first!! haha
(I helped save b3ta! Mstandot I suppose I should post more often., Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:06, archived)
# Do you wanna make tea at the BBC?
Do you wanna be, do you really wanna be a cop?



I'm scared of the TV Licence people
(horrid, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:06, archived)
# Its unfair
to be forced to buy BBC tea to drink Sky tea
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:08, archived)
# Drink sky+ tea....
Never miss a cup of tea again!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! Mstandot I suppose I should post more often., Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:09, archived)
# And if you enjoyed it,
you can regurgetate rewind and have it all again.
(I helped save b3ta! ArghZombies No longer has a Leaky QUIM, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:10, archived)
# And you can
pause Live Tea aswell, to fully appreciate it.

I've been downloading all my Tea off the internet though, off Bit-Tearrent
(I helped save b3ta! The Neville What what what, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:14, archived)
# If you get tea off inteaweb at same time as BBc is spraying its tea through the airwaves
you have to buy BBC tea
(unless its cold tea)
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:19, archived)
# I hate tea
but sky tea makes my coffee more expensive :(
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:10, archived)
# No, you've lost me now.
Can you repeat that without using metaphors?
Burn the BBC worker
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:11, archived)
# Haha
'nings sir
anyways...
commercial telly is mostly funded by advertising.
The cost of the advertising is part of the price you pay for goods.
I don't watch Sky.
I do buy things in shops.
The things I buy in shops,advertised on Sky, fund Sky
They cost more
This is unfair
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:18, archived)
# Wow, that's a confusing new angle.
Good stuff.

How about this:
mass media advertising popularises the products and brings the price down again, through the effect of economies of scale.

Oh, and you might as well say that's you're losing money when a shop installs a wheelchair ramp, since you don't personally benefit from it; but if it makes the business more successful, it potentially lowers prices or gives you some other indirect benefit.

Then again, over-popular businesses become a bit bland and impersonal, failing to satisfy anybody very much by trying to please everybody, so there might be some merit to your argument (which also works against wheelchair ramps).
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:21, archived)
# But...
the more mass media advertising affects the market the more companies will spend on advertising; thus a greater percentage of what we pay will covering the ad budget.
Also, many small producers won't have the finance for large campaigns and will be forced out of the market
soz about the delayed response, kittins were going mad
and I'm not really a commie, honest guv ;)
EDIT: but I love wheelchair ramps
they're great for office chair races :)
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:37, archived)
# to be fair...
I hate having to pay the licence fee, but I do think it's a good thing the BBC is independant and free from relying on commericials, business magnates etc.


Just look at the state of some of the reporting on the American channels :-S
(horrid, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:44, archived)
# It isn't, really.
It has an international commercial wing which gives money to the non-commercial wing, while still using the name BBC, which makes the non-commercial part a kind of huge* publicity stunt to improve the image of the commercial part.

Also it accepted millions of - some currency or other - from the EU recently.

*And compulsory
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:52, archived)
# It is true that World has finaly started making a profit
but it receives nothing from the license fee & the editorial control of the news operation is effectively under the same management as the rest of BBC news
/can only speak from a news point of view blog
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:10, archived)
# Hmm.
I think the BBC is a business, which ought to dare to make the license fee optional and spread its puny little commercial wings. There's no reason to suppose it would turn into another Sky as a result; there's no room in the market for a second Sky, and the BBC has already cornered the market for middle-class niceness and alleged integrity, so presumably it would stay there.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:17, archived)
# Thanks for reminding me about this
petitions.pm.gov.uk/NoBBCadverts/
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:53, archived)
# OK
This seems to have become an argument against all forms of advertising, now, not just the ones that escape your attention like Sky.

Well - it would all hinge on whether people choose advertised products over unfamiliar ones for reasons, or whether you think they're just conditioned like rats. Which depends on your ideas about psychology - it depends if you accept behaviourism and the idea that people can be blindly conditioned.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:58, archived)
# Hehehe
I'm just an idiot trying to hang on to his job ;)

which reminds me I've got to pop in for a bit today :(
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:04, archived)
# Best of luck with that then,
thanks for all the gin.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:05, archived)
# But you dont have to buy Sky tea to buy non-Sky tea

(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:25, archived)
# actually
I don't buy any tea...
nasty stewed leaf juice
;)
(I helped save b3ta! chunderbunny lacking humus since, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:39, archived)
# Coffee=
Burnt nuts
ground up!
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:48, archived)
# But
I only use my kettle for hot chocolate :(
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:12, archived)
# Then you have to remove the power cord
*stretches his metaphors*
(I helped save b3ta! chenobble rocking his explorer beard on, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:24, archived)
# Virgin Tea
cancelled my Sky Tea, so I can't even get Sky Tea if I wanted it.

Instead they're serving "Tea on demand" which serves me with tea that's at least 6 years old. Bah!
(I helped save b3ta! The Neville What what what, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:12, archived)
# Haha
yes, fair analogy.
Needs more "we know where you live".
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:10, archived)
# pfft
damn straight
(I helped save b3ta! The Neville What what what, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:13, archived)
# Licence fee increase!
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(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Fri 6 Apr 2007, 13:44, archived)
# money!
this is life
(I helped save b3ta! Hummel Who died and made you....oh wait...., Fri 6 Apr 2007, 14:07, archived)