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# I hadn't heard about that
link?
(I helped save b3ta! rhebus ac201fd270c3b96beab24f2829780ab2, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:25, archived)
# Oh hang on.
www.outdoor-weblog.com/50226711/bear_grylls_a_fraud.php

Here we go. It could all be bollocks, but I'm inclined to believe not.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:26, archived)
# I do remember wondering
"where do the camera crew kip?" while I was watching it but I assumed that they slept in a tent or caravan or something while Bear slept in his hammock/sleeping platform/shoe/whatever

It's disappointing, but less surprising than it should be :(
(I helped save b3ta! rhebus ac201fd270c3b96beab24f2829780ab2, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:28, archived)
# not like good old ray!
he's a mans man.
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:30, archived)
# Ray is a
podgy survival God. I love Ray.
(I helped save b3ta! Hamster Trippin' aka Mr. Titts, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:33, archived)
# He's fucking awesome.
And a bit sexy in a 'FEAR NOT LITTLE WOMAN' sort of way.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:35, archived)
# the old fraud!
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:28, archived)
# There is a disclaimer at the start of the show
Saying whilst they go and do this stuff, come the end of the day they go back to a hotel.
It was made out like they were roughing it in the early series then people moaned about it, so now they have a little disclaimer at the start of the show.
(I helped save b3ta! M o D, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:27, archived)
# Which then begs the question
WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT.

This may also have something to do with me really loving Ray Mears.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:29, archived)
# I'm also more of a fan of ray mears and lofty wiseman
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls
Under critisicismcismns.

I do still enjoy Bears show though, he does do some mad shit that if you were really in a survivial situation might come in handy.

Ray shows you how to live comfortably in the wilds. Hell he usually has a full set of herbs and spices to cook with!
(I helped save b3ta! M o D, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:31, archived)
# herbs and spices are forgiveable.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:32, archived)
# Ray is great
He'd definitely be my Desert Island discs luxury item. I could sit and read and listen to music while he built a house and found dinner.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:36, archived)