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# I'd like to play devil's advocate here,
but this seems a bit too pointless. There's a vaccine and they're not using it?

Why does the government not subsidise it so that the farmers aren't out of pocket?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:05, archived)
# I AM THE WORST DEVIL'S ADVOCATE EVER.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:06, archived)
# and it was a shite film
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:06, archived)
# I hear your hourly rate is outrageous
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:07, archived)
# I receive outrage as a payment.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:10, archived)
# my vague understanding of the reasoning behind not vaccinating
is that if we jab animals, we somehow admit we have a problem and our livestock is contaminated
with badness, which means the export market for beefy stuff dries up.
strikes me if we stop importing beefy and eat it all here the problem is solved cos we wouldn't have any left over to export. also the badgers get to live. and we save a few bob shipping stuff all over the place.

or something.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:12, archived)
# Beef exports are still banned outside the EU
UK Beef hasn't been allowed here (South Africa) for years.

I abhor the whole meat market but I believe that the biggest problem with spreading of diseases is the fact that abbatoirs are centralised these days and not slaughtered close to where they were reared.

Don't massive supermarket chains insist that animals are slaughtered at their own abbatoirs that are often located at the other end of the country from the originating farm?
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# didn't know that about uk beef
seems rather odd, given that all of our beef is nice and new and pretty healthy, we culled all the old stuff a few years back.
ultimately this whole nonsence, as mr toast pointed out, is about saving a few quid and bugger all to do with animal welfare or concern with anything other than someone's bottom line.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# Money talks. Stop buying it.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:25, archived)
# There was a foot and mouth outbreak last year in Surrey
which cause MASSIVE problems with all sorts of products.
I import food and it was amazing what was banned from LEAVING the UK.
Heinz sponge puddings! (contain milk products).
Anything that contained a certain percentage of milk products. No Ambrosia creamed rice either.

(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:28, archived)
# no rice pudding, that's an outrage.
it does seem rather bizzare that you in south africa need to import something as basic as rice pud, notwithstanding that ambrosia is the best in the world ever, and that you guys can't eat home produced stuff from your cleaner than ours dairy herd. the world's gone bonkers.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:35, archived)
# It's disturbing that the industry can still thrive while they destroy entire herds "just in case".
Would the vaccination still work if it was done on entry to the importing country/on exit from Britain?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:22, archived)