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TJ: Does anyone have a decent method for making or optimising animated gifs of tv clips or anything raw like that.
Imageready seems to give muhussive file sizes even with colours down at about 16. Even scanlines are giving me ridiculous sizes.

(Jeru War and Piss, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:24, archived)

Have you tried removing every other frame?

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ClanSoul, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:27, archived)

this

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pzyko Query failed., Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:27, archived)

Removed 4 out of 5 frames and it's still ridiculous

Some people seem to have really good looking gifs on the board with almost no filesize, what magicks are they using?

(Jeru War and Piss, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:28, archived)

Have you made it physically smaller?

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my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:29, archived)

much movement in the clip makes the file big

even in a scene with a still camera, the pixel noise blows up the filesize
try masking the areas which don't change (much) with a still frame

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pzyko Query failed., Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:30, archived)

reduce the dimensions by 50%

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SkUG >_O i got a couple of stitches in my eyeball... ow, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:37, archived)

Replace the animation with a big picture of a cock.

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my other username is a porsche , posting shit pictures so you don't have to, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:38, archived)

1. scale down the video

2. reduce the frame rate
3. use no (or another method of) dithering
4. hand-crop the moving parts in each successive frame

roughly in order of effectiveness & amount of work

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but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all foreskin of the apocalypse, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:30, archived)

I've done all bar the last option which I will try

Although on the one I was trying it kept zooming in, which can't help.

(Jeru War and Piss, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:31, archived)

if you can provide a link to a large gif version or movie I may be able to mess it about a bit

edit: if the camera is moving about a lot there usually isn't much you can do except what you've tried already. Unless you remove all of the background.

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but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all foreskin of the apocalypse, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:33, archived)

What are we dealing with here?

How many frames, physical image size etc?

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Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:30, archived)

200x150

50-60 frames

Even on 32 colours it is about 400KB, with scanlines it will be about 200KB.
But I swear I have seen long and scanlineless looking gifs on here, which is what confused me. I presumed Imageready was being arsey.

(Jeru War and Piss, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:34, archived)

Send it to me

email somewhere in profile, i'll reveal what you've missed, though that's a lot of frames

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Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:36, archived)

try losing some more frames

and as I said above, the more movement, the bigger the file, try masking out the noise (if the camera's not panning or zooming, that is)

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pzyko Query failed., Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:37, archived)

As I hinted at above

if each frame is completely different from the previous (in other words, if there aren't any blocks of pixels that stay exactly the same from one frame to the next) that kind of file size is expected. Especially, if you don't have largish blocks of one solid colour (and most video doesn't have any blocks of solid colour to speak of).

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but the hedgehog can never be buggered at all foreskin of the apocalypse, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:38, archived)

good question

Are we talking video (i.e. jpeg frames) or cartoon, or some other medium?

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finnbar has officially retired, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:35, archived)

It's the nature of animated gifs I'm afraid.

Try reducing the number of frames if you can get away with it. Frames = time = money :(
There are many tips for optimising animation. Best bet is to make what looks good, then use a snippet of it for a link to the main feature.

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finnbar has officially retired, Sat 1 Mar 2008, 23:33, archived)