I believe that the mods are the ones that propose challenges and qotwso you can find out, rob, fraser, cthonic (sp), scaryduck that way. I've been told mystery bob and pep are also mod.
There is no mod ever around on the gayshift and there needs to be, just look who posts at that time.
I'm not sure that rigorous rules are the way to go accept maybe with spam and nsfw images. Filesize should be flexible but not excessive. Content: anything goes so long as it fits the previous rules. As soon as that starts being regulated b3ta will die.
Someone proposed a *link this* button that automatically linked naughty posts after a few people voted. Also there should be a report system
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Wed 21 May 2008, 1:17,
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There is no mod ever around on the gayshift and there needs to be, just look who posts at that time.
I'm not sure that rigorous rules are the way to go accept maybe with spam and nsfw images. Filesize should be flexible but not excessive. Content: anything goes so long as it fits the previous rules. As soon as that starts being regulated b3ta will die.
Someone proposed a *link this* button that automatically linked naughty posts after a few people voted. Also there should be a report system
i like the link this button ashally
Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:20,
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do you remember who suggested it? it was on /board a couple of days agoI don't think it ever got posted as a feature request.
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Wed 21 May 2008, 1:22,
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no idea i've been too ill to b3ta this weekend Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:26,
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the names you mentionare the established and esteemed b3tans who have brought b3ta to us and of course they have mod privileges. There are others. There most definitely needs to be a mod on at gay shift but he does not need to be an antipodean because your clique is out of hand already.
There should be rules. I fucking love rules. I was admin at one of the nets busiest game forums for the game publishers for 5 years. I was hated and loved. When I left I had countless mails for up to 3 years later telling me that I might have been 'firm but fair' and things went downhill afterwards. I didn't give a fuck, they refused to pay me so I fucked off.
B3ta is mostly self regulating but the cliques frighten the hell out of some people so they need to be moderated themselves.
Don't worry about rules, regulation won't kill b3ta. more and more idiots thinking this is 4chan will kill b3ta.
(There should be rules. I fucking love rules. I was admin at one of the nets busiest game forums for the game publishers for 5 years. I was hated and loved. When I left I had countless mails for up to 3 years later telling me that I might have been 'firm but fair' and things went downhill afterwards. I didn't give a fuck, they refused to pay me so I fucked off.
B3ta is mostly self regulating but the cliques frighten the hell out of some people so they need to be moderated themselves.
Don't worry about rules, regulation won't kill b3ta. more and more idiots thinking this is 4chan will kill b3ta.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:25,
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See, now you are getting the hang of it.I might be outspoken Bob and I might be a twat at times but when you strip the comedy and intended foolishness from my posts ) ok, don't say it ) . I do talk a bit of sense.
( Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:34,
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All that introducing a bunch of strict rules would dowould validate the board nazis and alienate new people who have not read and memorised twenty pages of instructions before they post.
What everyone has to remember, is that it's only a messageboard on the internet. It's really not all that important.
(What everyone has to remember, is that it's only a messageboard on the internet. It's really not all that important.
Mystery_Bob,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:42,
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I know.And I'm nor so much of a nazi that I endorse anything that frightens people away. I'm just old fashioned and military brainwashed so I feel that rules are a basic function of life. It would be nice to have a defined stricture for filesize ( but much larger than we have ) so that new members can be pointed to it. 'guideline' only causes argument.
I think anything revolving around abuse should be withing strict guidelines because having had the misfortune to study ECHR for privacy recently there is much that goes on here that the operators can be held liable for if somebody chose to take issue with it.
Again, I'm just having a joke most of the time and I don't think b3ta is broke, but there can always be room for tweaks ( and I'd propose tweaks to protect new members )
(I think anything revolving around abuse should be withing strict guidelines because having had the misfortune to study ECHR for privacy recently there is much that goes on here that the operators can be held liable for if somebody chose to take issue with it.
Again, I'm just having a joke most of the time and I don't think b3ta is broke, but there can always be room for tweaks ( and I'd propose tweaks to protect new members )
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:51,
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I sometimes regret mentioning filesize figures at all in the faqI just pulled those figures out of my ass at the time of writing, although there was a general consensus on the board at the time of what was acceptable.
I only mentioned it in the faq as an attempt to get people to think about optimisation when making their images. Does your pic really need to be a 120KB jpg, or could you make it a 20KB gif? That kind of thing.
Instead I seem to have created some kind of cult of filesize nazis who don't understand the point of the limits and post 250KB animations that point out someone else's post is 5KB too big.
I think a rigid filesize limit is a bad idea, because I have seen some fantastic stuff that is maybe 260KB. it would make the board a worse place if all that had to be linked.
I am not so keen on increased limits either. Animated gifs are quite a limited format - if you want to go much over 250KB, then you are probably better off making it a flash movie, or posting it on Youtube where you can have much better quality and add music or sound effects too.
(I only mentioned it in the faq as an attempt to get people to think about optimisation when making their images. Does your pic really need to be a 120KB jpg, or could you make it a 20KB gif? That kind of thing.
Instead I seem to have created some kind of cult of filesize nazis who don't understand the point of the limits and post 250KB animations that point out someone else's post is 5KB too big.
I think a rigid filesize limit is a bad idea, because I have seen some fantastic stuff that is maybe 260KB. it would make the board a worse place if all that had to be linked.
I am not so keen on increased limits either. Animated gifs are quite a limited format - if you want to go much over 250KB, then you are probably better off making it a flash movie, or posting it on Youtube where you can have much better quality and add music or sound effects too.
Mystery_Bob,
Wed 21 May 2008, 2:02,
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I take all that on boardas you argue it sensibly. Personally it does not matter to me, I have 20MB cable ( soon to be 50MB ) with no transfer limit. I do know that there are many, many others who are not so fortunate.
I think filesize, no matter how much a bugbear could and should be addressed being as it came about in a time when ISP pipelines were much smaller and we all had less space to fight for but don't think I'm all abot me " I can download 5MB in 10 seconds so fuck you all ".
I just think that maybe still images could be allowed to be bigger by 50% in data ( but not pixel size, that drives me nuts, no need to make it massive, just thumb it ) and anims could be allowed to be up to 400kb just for that extra bit of data.
It's just me rabbiting on but I'm sure a discussion could maybe open up around this area?
I still think that the issue of personal and vindictive abuse is washed over and there will come a time that you will be required to address this because the law already requires that you do, just that nobody presses it. ( and the last person I know who tried was banned )
Anyway Bob, n'night, I don't mean to rock the boat, I like chats like this.
(I think filesize, no matter how much a bugbear could and should be addressed being as it came about in a time when ISP pipelines were much smaller and we all had less space to fight for but don't think I'm all abot me " I can download 5MB in 10 seconds so fuck you all ".
I just think that maybe still images could be allowed to be bigger by 50% in data ( but not pixel size, that drives me nuts, no need to make it massive, just thumb it ) and anims could be allowed to be up to 400kb just for that extra bit of data.
It's just me rabbiting on but I'm sure a discussion could maybe open up around this area?
I still think that the issue of personal and vindictive abuse is washed over and there will come a time that you will be required to address this because the law already requires that you do, just that nobody presses it. ( and the last person I know who tried was banned )
Anyway Bob, n'night, I don't mean to rock the boat, I like chats like this.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Wed 21 May 2008, 2:12,
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Agreed on almost everythingcontent rules. I don't want to look at kittens all day. A lot of the stuff on b3ta is fairly rancid in terms of humour taste.
I don't really like mods, basically because I hate authorities and consequently get modslapped a bit...
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Wed 21 May 2008, 1:42,
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I don't really like mods, basically because I hate authorities and consequently get modslapped a bit...
I think that a voted for 'link this' button is a bad ideafor the same reason that users don't get to vote for the front page, it's too open to abuse.
Within hours of setting that up, the board will have chosen someone to pick on and start linking every one of their posts.
The mods might miss things every now and then, but things do get picked up on eventually. Persistent offenders and trolls get banned.
In the meantime, there is an ignore button to hide posts that you don't want to see. One click and all the bad stuff goes away.
(Within hours of setting that up, the board will have chosen someone to pick on and start linking every one of their posts.
The mods might miss things every now and then, but things do get picked up on eventually. Persistent offenders and trolls get banned.
In the meantime, there is an ignore button to hide posts that you don't want to see. One click and all the bad stuff goes away.
Mystery_Bob,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:40,
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I agree.I don't think we need more functions, just more moderation, as in a mod on board at all times if it's possible. I've seen it done and there are certainly educated, sensible and level headed people here could do the job.
VOTE THE NEVILLE FOR MOD!
(VOTE THE NEVILLE FOR MOD!
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:44,
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minutes of The Neville's modship12.01 pm - made some tea
12.04 pm - decided to ban myself to see what would happen
12.05 pm - hmmmm something has gone wrong
12.06pm - SUDDENLY A WHALE
(12.04 pm - decided to ban myself to see what would happen
12.05 pm - hmmmm something has gone wrong
12.06pm - SUDDENLY A WHALE
Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:46,
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oh12:07 - Board closed for lack of broam.
( Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:56,
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Yeah that's truewhat about a "report this" button that messages a mod. but the user who reported would stand to account if the report was done for little or no reason?
I suppose that would clog up the mods inbox at times.
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Wed 21 May 2008, 1:48,
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I suppose that would clog up the mods inbox at times.
guess soCan't say I like the flag this on youtube, because I want to watch the racy videos.
but the thing is if someone reports an image with the reason "60kb" they should get a naughty step for abuse of the feature. Similarly if they flag for "contains gary glitter, offensive to victims of child abuse" they should also should be told to get tae fuck.
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Wed 21 May 2008, 1:55,
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but the thing is if someone reports an image with the reason "60kb" they should get a naughty step for abuse of the feature. Similarly if they flag for "contains gary glitter, offensive to victims of child abuse" they should also should be told to get tae fuck.
If there is anything you would like to see on the boardthan I suggest you post it here:
b3ta.com/questions/bugs_and_feature_requests/
It might not be implemented, but the list does get looked at.
(b3ta.com/questions/bugs_and_feature_requests/
It might not be implemented, but the list does get looked at.
Mystery_Bob,
Wed 21 May 2008, 1:52,
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ok cheersI replied to this post:
b3ta.com/questions/bugs_and_feature_requests/post160546
which is similar to what's been discussed here.
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Wed 21 May 2008, 1:59,
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b3ta.com/questions/bugs_and_feature_requests/post160546
which is similar to what's been discussed here.