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# Jim Shirley, the 19th century sea captain who set the 1893 speed record for liverpool to cape town?
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:02, archived)
# No, the other Jim Shirley

The one who sawed his wife and daughters in half and sold their skin as novelty kites.
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:03, archived)
# Yep, Jim Shirley fixed it for them fairly well
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:05, archived)
# wasn't he an austrian cellarphile?
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:05, archived)
# who are you calling austrian?
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:08, archived)
# austrians
and hitler
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:09, archived)
# what about Martin?
(, Sat 12 Jul 2008, 14:18, archived)