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The flesh you so fancifully fry
Is not succulent, tasty or kind
Its death for no reason
And death for no reason is murder

And the calf that you carve with a smile
Is murder
And the turkey you festively slice
Is murder

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connor, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:14, archived)

PLANTS ARE ORGANISMS TOO!

Except wheat which is actually a form of dry sneeze.

(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:15, archived)

take a good look at your teeth.

are they shaped like cow's teeth? no. they're not. that is because the human diet is meant to include meat. it's called the food chain.
DON'T FUCK WITH NATURAL SELECTION, MAN!

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:18, archived)

i'm pretty sure the human digestive system is evolved mainly to eat grain/nuts and stuff like that

by eating meat you polluting the environment with cow farts and depriving the poor of food. and its murder.

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connor, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:23, archived)

WRONG

it's actually cow burps that produce methane.

and water (vapour) is a bigger constituent of greenhouse gasses in our atmosphere than CO2

(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:27, archived)

we have canine teeth, which are designed for meat-eating.

we evolved as hunter-gatherers. i don't know about you, but i've never been tempted to stalk the wilds for a bunch of fucking carrots.

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:28, archived)

Well animals murder other animals all the time then. Which means that presumably if we stop then we have to make them stop.

At which point the majority of them would die as they are not omnivores and the food chain itself collapses.

Would that it were you could get synthetic meat, or that animals could not be so intensively farmed, but it doesn't seem on the cards with the population numbers barely able to be supported by normal means.

(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:31, archived)

well no. to say that we must do as the animals and kill each other for food

then we should also not have societies and not do things for other people and murder people for resources etc. as humans we have developed beyond that so we can make moral choices. anyways. i am not vegetarian for moral reasons. it's just fun to pretend so. goodnight.

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connor, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:39, archived)

self awareness is over-rated

and we-re over-populated, individuals of any species should only produce one copy of themselves, no more, no less. This ensures healthy propogation of species, and maintenance of ecosystems.

anyways, we've only got a couple of million years left on this planet. whatever we do doesn't matter

(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:42, archived)

You had a point up until

"and not do things for other people and murder people for resources etc."

I think people are way ahead of you there. And as much as I believe humanity should not act like savages, the path to hell is paved with good intentions - morality is never a good addition to anything despite how simplistic and trueist murder and such may seem.

(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:43, archived)

^this

there's a reason there are so many essential fatty acids that are only found in animals. it's how we've evloved.

edit: ashually smash, some of them are. but not the important ones

(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:25, archived)

Our teeth are actually best suited to eating bugs

which is why people shouldn't use that argument.

"red meat made early humans grow bigger brains" is a far better one.

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gronkpan https://twitter.com/VomitingLarry, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:30, archived)

so what are bugs made of, marzipan?

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:35, archived)

We would have very different teeth if we were meant to eat large animals.

That doesn't stop me, but it still fucks the "we evolved to eat steak" argument.

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gronkpan https://twitter.com/VomitingLarry, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:46, archived)

there's a slight counter-argument

which is to do with the congruence of the upper and lower sets of teeth, and the reason we evolved only two sets of neat teeth whilst sharks evolved multiple rows.

in short we evolved to eat a varied diet which includes meat, fruits, veg and some bugs (although not so much these days)

(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:50, archived)

the point i'm trying to make is

that claiming that humans are meant to eat only vegetarian foods is nuttier than connor's veggie shit.

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:53, archived)

Ben Zephaniah?

I disagree vehemently with vegetarianism. The eating of the flesh of reared animals is not murder as it is their purpose. Wild animals is a different story, although I'm not at all opposed to that either.
I do try and buy good quality meat/eggs/dairy from animals who've been well treated and allowed to roam (I know with Dairy these days that's nigh on impossible, but that's the supermeercats fault) and would love to have some chickens or sheep in the future which i would happily rear to the slaughter, and partake in the eating of (although i couldn't eat a whole sheep, that'd be greedy, and unprofitable)

(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:20, archived)

Shotgun some of that sheep

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epiphany coming live from sweden, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:21, archived)

you or your housemates fans of marmite?

someone on here made a recommendation of coating potatoes in it before roasting them a while back and i can confirm it is tasty. although i find it nicer to only do some of the spuds like this, and have a mix on the plate

(cs192 is sucking on a Koala at, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:37, archived)

I dont like it

I dont know about the others

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epiphany coming live from sweden, Thu 23 Oct 2008, 1:47, archived)