
why does she need a swimsuit anyway?
Woo, too.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 22:35,
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Woo, too.

something something something something?
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 22:41,
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and if a tree falls in a forest and there is no-one around to hear it does it make a sound?
My answer is yes as we evolved ears to hear sound - not that sound was created to suit the fact we have ears. Therefore sound is an ambient part of the evironment and we evolved to learn to hear sound else we wouldn't need ears - therefore sound happens whether we hear it or not. ta-da!
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 22:52,
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My answer is yes as we evolved ears to hear sound - not that sound was created to suit the fact we have ears. Therefore sound is an ambient part of the evironment and we evolved to learn to hear sound else we wouldn't need ears - therefore sound happens whether we hear it or not. ta-da!

not the energy itself. if there are no ears to receive the energy, there is no 'sound'
so in terms of literal truth, if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, it doesn't make a noise, it merely produces waves of sound energy
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:02,
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so in terms of literal truth, if a tree falls and no one is around to hear it, it doesn't make a noise, it merely produces waves of sound energy

whether sound is just molecules vibrating in certain ways, or whether it's the qualia of us perceiving those vibrations.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:06,
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that was the word i was looking for.
'"sound"ness' good grief....
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:09,
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'"sound"ness' good grief....

regardless of how they are perceived. Often this kind of question of the falling tree is coupled with the remark "We don't hear the wind unless it rustles through the leaves of a tree." but any movement of air makes a sound often too low a frequency for us to preceive.
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Thu 13 Nov 2008, 23:28,
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But I'd use sound to describe the physical or mental processes, and this whole debate seems to depend on which definition you use.
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I'd like to know the answers, not just some philosophy but the truth of things. However I don't think there really is truth of things only subjective interpretations about these things - however there must be an undeniable truth of things but we will never know what is the objective truth of life.
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