how do you meant untested?I'm sure someone, somewhere said ' Yep, that's a huge tomato and it tastes fucking great'.
If you mean unregulated then that's down to specific governments and where there is regulation ( such as most of the Western world ) there is extreme focus on consumer health and then environmental risks.
Besides, there is less of it 'in the cycle' than you might think with only 6 major GMO crops in worldwide mass use.
(If you mean unregulated then that's down to specific governments and where there is regulation ( such as most of the Western world ) there is extreme focus on consumer health and then environmental risks.
Besides, there is less of it 'in the cycle' than you might think with only 6 major GMO crops in worldwide mass use.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 12:59,
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Tomatos with fish genes.Etc.
Now they're out there - they've been grown in the open, and have already cross-pollinated with other, non-GM stuff.
Whether the original GM stuff was tested or not.
Wind doesn't really conform to regulations - Western or no.
(Now they're out there - they've been grown in the open, and have already cross-pollinated with other, non-GM stuff.
Whether the original GM stuff was tested or not.
Wind doesn't really conform to regulations - Western or no.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:09,
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Right.Tomatos with fish genes.
Any evidence - at all - that there is anything actually wrong with that?
Granted, it's a bit weird, but what the fuck - so is fucking Quorn.
(Any evidence - at all - that there is anything actually wrong with that?
Granted, it's a bit weird, but what the fuck - so is fucking Quorn.
J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:12,
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unfortunately, it's the converse that's the problemAny evidence - at all - that there is anything nothing actually wrong with that?
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Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:16,
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No. That simply doesn't work.Merely because people are unsettled by the concept doesn't make it wrong.
( J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:18,
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that's not what i'm trying to say. From a scientific point of view(ignoring the whale huggers views) there must be nothing wrong.
another way to put what I am trying to say is: everything must be right.
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Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:34,
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another way to put what I am trying to say is: everything must be right.
I'm not saying tomato with fish genes is wrong - I'm citing it as an example of GM, to illustrate the cross-pollination aspect. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:16,
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You should read less of theanti GMO propaganda and more of the world health organisation literature before you use urban myth and half truths to prop up your argument.
The 'fish-gene' experiment was a bid to turn on cold resistance in tomato genes by copying the markers from Arctic fish. It never worked.
These antifreeze proteins are already present in the plants and are not taken from fish, they used the fish research to learn how to turn the genes on.
(The 'fish-gene' experiment was a bid to turn on cold resistance in tomato genes by copying the markers from Arctic fish. It never worked.
These antifreeze proteins are already present in the plants and are not taken from fish, they used the fish research to learn how to turn the genes on.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:16,
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I'm not saying tomato with fish genes is wrong - I'm citing it as an example of GM, to illustrate the cross-pollination aspect. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:22,
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I'm saying it is wrong thoughbecause you are using an example of a thing that did not quite happen in the manner that you report it to support an argument that is based solely on your opinion and resistance to progress.
"Tomatoes with anti-freeze proteins already present in the food being switched on after studying how the same proteins work in Arctic flounder" Does not really have the same shock effect does it?
("Tomatoes with anti-freeze proteins already present in the food being switched on after studying how the same proteins work in Arctic flounder" Does not really have the same shock effect does it?
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:25,
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OK - I'm sorry.Here you go then: "Untested GM stuff shouldn't be allowed into the cycle."
Is that better?
(Is that better?
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:33,
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It puts us back to the beginningas I don't know what you mean by untested.
As I said, The world health organisation monitors this. The national authorities are required to carry out thorough risk assessments for human and environmental health risks so assuming that's what you mean then I agree with you but considering that's the way it is now I don't see what you are wanting to change.
(As I said, The world health organisation monitors this. The national authorities are required to carry out thorough risk assessments for human and environmental health risks so assuming that's what you mean then I agree with you but considering that's the way it is now I don't see what you are wanting to change.
Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice,
Mon 9 Feb 2009, 13:37,
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