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# I qualify on both of those latter counts
and I have a Wii. They're great fun

/this being said, I'm not a trad. console 'gamer' but I enjoy it for what it is
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:10, archived)
# I know one thing
that Nintendo will ever publish. Anything for grown-ups :P

Edit:// and to be honest there are no consoles in my house nor will there ever be. My son will not grow up to be subverted by shite that serves no purpose.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:11, archived)
# no wife-beating games
(munzor in the jungle, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:13, archived)
# ~ Pasanonic on entertainment
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:14, archived)
# My console (+games and extras) was kinda of supplied by 'NUTS' magazine in a roundabout way :)
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:14, archived)
# I did have a PS2 for a while
but it only served as the dvd player for the bedroom.
I have high hopes for my child and in the same way that you have fat kids because you feed them rubbish I'm of the opinion that the mind works the same way.
He starts military school in 2 and a half years and they are going to be impressed ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:17, archived)
# opinion? it's fact
I'm so retarded now if I merely turn on a tv I am suddenly compelled to drool

I really should be using my spare time to study instead of looking at nonsense on the internet, the brian is turning to jelly
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:19, archived)
# "brian"
It's started already!
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:24, archived)
# it's all in the details
:)
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:25, archived)
# Modern military training uses computer games
Its becoming popular in UK and US armies.
(munzor in the jungle, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:20, archived)
# you know, in the late 60's they tried to use pong style games for reaction training
the conclusion at the time was "it's crap"

:D

tho yes, they do use some slightly more realised games these days
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:23, archived)
# And your point is?
I've not discounted video gaming. We do some of that together.
I'm saying that driving little cartoon cars around and pretending to be a rock star by pressing coloured buttons are not on his agenda.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:23, archived)
# you're going to be so disapointed when he becomes a pimp
(I helped save b3ta! mictoboy shitting in your cunt since, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:26, archived)
# Are you fucking kidding?
That's better than I could expect. Think of the fun we'd have discussing cars.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:27, archived)
# fun is not on his agenda?
Running over people and pretending to shred guitar is pure fun.
(munzor in the jungle, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:27, archived)
# Fucking this.
I don't get why people think gaming is less worthwhile than say, board games or darts. It's a game - the fact that it's on a screen doesn't detract from that.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:30, archived)
# throwing screens at a dartboard in a pub sounds like fun
:D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:31, archived)
# "One thooooousand and EIGHHHHHHTY"p
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:36, archived)
# :D
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:46, archived)
# you should know better than to
be backing someone up when they are assuming things rather than accepting the facts.
I've not said a bad word about video gaming. I just don't do consoles because anything worthwhile on a console is on a PC, looking and playing much better and the rest is pointless junk filling in dead-time for chavs and wasters after Jeremy Kyle has finished.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:37, archived)
# That's not a fact, that is merely your opinion.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:38, archived)
# I was talking about the facts as stated by me
per my son and what he is allowed and not allowed to do. Every counter offered here has been to something I never actually wrote.
Assumption, it's a waste of everyone's time.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:40, archived)
# You see you are doing it again.
reading some of my words and then making comments based upon what you want me to have said rather than anything I have actually written.
I've not mentioned him being in the army ( at 12 ) but you want to tell me how the army trains then I've not mentioned that my son, who is a fine, well-balanced and very happy boy, is not allowed to have fun but you tell me that's what I'm saying.

My son, and my nephews for that matter, plays classical guitar, he has an electric guitar and a cornet. Why should he want to pretend to play when he can just go and play?
It does not have to have a 3 pin plug on it for it to give you fun.

There's the problem with consoles. It turns you into imbeciles who can't equate fun to anything other than sitting on a couch punching buttons to the shiny pixels.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:33, archived)
# As a console and PC gamer, I resent the implication.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:34, archived)
# And to be honest madam
I don't actually give a fuck. I know the difference between educational and mind-numbing.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:38, archived)
# Those aren't exhaustive options.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:40, archived)
# To be honest i welcome mind-numbing fun gaming after a day of studying
Masters in engineering is really fucking hard.
(munzor in the jungle, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:46, archived)
# Yeh but it's not rocket science!
Oh wait.
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:58, archived)
# So you also won't let him read books, make airfix models, etc.?
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:15, archived)
# ...browse B3ta...
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:16, archived)
# Heh.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:17, archived)
# cheers for the new textures on /links btw, good stuff yet again
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:17, archived)
# :D
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:18, archived)
# He can do anything which is educational
and I'm looking at over 1000 books on shelves right now. No shortage of reading in this house.
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:18, archived)
# yes, but your Razzle collection may not get him his 11+ ;)
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:21, archived)
# mod them for nefarious illegal cracking purposes
"ignore that thing in the office, it's just a tv game"

not that I endorse such behaviour of course*


*yes, I do.
(I helped save b3ta! discomeats This canoe, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:16, archived)
# Good work. I'm a/was a PC gamer, and I maintain that it's a superior machine for gaming but I love my Wii none the less.
(I helped save b3ta! Ttssattsr, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:13, archived)
# PC gaiing is the best, but
I managed to get my parents to play games on the Wii, that was special.
(munzor in the jungle, Wed 18 Feb 2009, 19:23, archived)