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# wait
expand on this for a moment for me

I'm getting quite interested in the mechanics of argument
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:33, archived)
# Much like the flatearthers which is pretty much a practice in forming something plausible sound and arguable around anything.
Who claim that the moon and the sun and orbitary lightbulbs put there by the government or something, and would generally have an answer to any theory of gravity you put to them.

If you just ask them why anyone would want to cover up the fact that the earth is flat, they're fucking stumped there. It's like the grandmaster pulling off a classic chess defence, then you punching him in the face and beating him to death with the board.
(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:36, archived)
# i've actually had this exact conversation on a bus in the states
the answer i got was "how am i supposed to know, man? thats the secret"
(I helped save b3ta! Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:39, archived)
# At which point you punch the person in the face and beat him to death with the chessboard!
(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:41, archived)
# i just gave up
i thought, "fuck it", there's no way possible way i can win this one
(I helped save b3ta! Tom OBedlam I have control of a tank, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:42, archived)
# The one I usually do is to make up something completely unprovable and personally offensive to the person and then tell them it's true.
Then when they disagree tell them to present proof despite the fact you don't class any proof as 'really knowing'.

claim that there can be no true proof for the existance of god = god exists, I generally claim that jesus or some religious figure was gay, then insist that they should present incontrovertable proof if they disagree.
(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:48, archived)
# this works until they say something is proof, even if it isn't
the Bible for example
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:51, archived)
# But it never said in the bible that he wasn't gay, did it?
And follow that line of logic ad naseum.
(Jeru War and Piss, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:54, archived)
# in fact to the contrary;
it pretty much says outright that he was "the one whom Jesus loved" etc etc...
(I helped save b3ta! lordsaccharine b3taing is well retro mate, Thu 30 Apr 2009, 13:55, archived)