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# ^this with bells on
*must not start ranting*
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:59, archived)
# rant away
it's good for your blood pressure
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:01, archived)
# poor Mancs
they get to pay £60 for a useless piece of plastic and to have their biometrics extracted and put on a not very secure database - which they're on for life (you can't get your record deleted) - but only if they've got a passport (£72)

cost of (non-intrusive) ID card in Spain: 6 Euros

what a bunch of total bollocks

(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:09, archived)
# yeah
but they're mancs ;)
i may get to see spanish id cards next week. yay holidays!
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:13, archived)
# Please do
It will stop me looking like the lone lunatic
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:02, archived)
# Most certainly not 'lone' on this, sir.
Damn silly, impossible-to-implement idea which will cost a fortune.
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:13, archived)
# but, there are apparently no savings to be made by scrapping it
because the projected cost (~£3bn) isn't funded by the taxpayer - it's funded by...the public!

a) £3bn is the apparent cost to the Home Office only. Nobody knows what it will cost to any other govt department (should any of them actually be interested)
b) the public are generally taxpayers
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:18, archived)
# Yes, indeed,
That's the the worst of it. hence 'will cost a fortune'.

I don't recall getting a vote on this, either....

Hmmmm *ponders*
(, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:22, archived)