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# Tropical


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(I helped save b3ta! Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:49, archived)
# and that's how governments work
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 6 May 2009, 13:51, archived)
# they can cunt off
i'm not getting one!
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:51, archived)
# You have no choice
They will be compulsory. Oh, they will tell you it's all voluntary and fluffy, but in a few years banks etc will give you funny looks for not having one and your life will be totally screwed when the database becomes tainted (actually, it will start out tainted as it is being seeded with data known to be wrong).

You think getting the DVLA to acknowledge their cock up bad? That'll be nothing compared to having NIS admit they are wrong, non-person.
(SpangleDangle >->)))'>, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:54, archived)
# i intend to have fun
getting them to pay for it for me. i am poor.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:58, archived)
# we had them here in the seventies
did that prevent terrorism?
did it fuck
(I helped save b3ta! VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:10, archived)
# The sooner the better.
Plus we need biometric fingerprinting at all train stations and airports. And if you lily-livered whingeing liberals don't accept it then the army and the police ought to down tools and say "look after yourselves then".
(I helped save b3ta! Pasanonic 's been known to cause insanity in laboratory mice, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:19, archived)
# the army hasn't got any tools
Gordon Brown's sold them to immigrants
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:21, archived)
# A few opinions
Gordon Brown - Cunt
Jacqui Smith - Cunt
ID Cards - not the problem, it's the database
ID Database - perfect for citizen control, fuck all use against terrorism

Vote these fuckers out!
(SpangleDangle >->)))'>, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:51, archived)
# The next party will want in with ID cards.
They stop people touching children over the internet.
(waxdart hello., Wed 6 May 2009, 13:54, archived)
# How old are you?
*touches*


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:54, archived)
# Loes Sir
(I helped save b3ta! Laird Dave Draws Now charges to take off his clothes., Wed 6 May 2009, 13:56, archived)
# yeah I saw it but then you disapeared fromthe board
Anyhoo I got to shoot off, I'm away to see a gay couple about renting a room in their trendy flat.
How very metrosexual of me.
Toodles.
(I helped save b3ta! Laird Dave Draws Now charges to take off his clothes., Wed 6 May 2009, 14:12, archived)
# I'm old an male enuff to be an online 13yr old girl.
groom me.
(waxdart hello., Wed 6 May 2009, 13:58, archived)
# yeah!
Let's have some new fuckers!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:54, archived)
# That is actually a point
All our MPs are bunch of self-serving bastards.
(SpangleDangle >->)))'>, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:56, archived)
# but they only cost thirty quid!
and a one off 'pointless splitting up of the cost to try vainly to make it seem cheaper than it actually is' fee of another thirty quid! Obviously AFTER you've shelled out eighty quid or whatever the feck it is for a cocking passport!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:53, archived)
# If it was only 80quid
It’s the building and maintenance costs.
The breaches in security costs.
(waxdart hello., Wed 6 May 2009, 13:56, archived)
# ^this with bells on
*must not start ranting*
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 6 May 2009, 13:59, archived)
# rant away
it's good for your blood pressure
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:01, archived)
# poor Mancs
they get to pay £60 for a useless piece of plastic and to have their biometrics extracted and put on a not very secure database - which they're on for life (you can't get your record deleted) - but only if they've got a passport (£72)

cost of (non-intrusive) ID card in Spain: 6 Euros

what a bunch of total bollocks

(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:09, archived)
# yeah
but they're mancs ;)
i may get to see spanish id cards next week. yay holidays!
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:13, archived)
# Please do
It will stop me looking like the lone lunatic
(SpangleDangle >->)))'>, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:02, archived)
# Most certainly not 'lone' on this, sir.
Damn silly, impossible-to-implement idea which will cost a fortune.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:13, archived)
# but, there are apparently no savings to be made by scrapping it
because the projected cost (~£3bn) isn't funded by the taxpayer - it's funded by...the public!

a) £3bn is the apparent cost to the Home Office only. Nobody knows what it will cost to any other govt department (should any of them actually be interested)
b) the public are generally taxpayers
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:18, archived)
# Yes, indeed,
That's the the worst of it. hence 'will cost a fortune'.

I don't recall getting a vote on this, either....

Hmmmm *ponders*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:22, archived)
# wot professor undercover finks (for the very little it is worth):
1) terrorism, rather than being a significant threat to our democracy and way of life is a convenient was to make being a lazy politician in power easy

2) ID cards and databases are a significant threat to our democracy and way of life

3) the government can not be trusted with our details, this is equally true of the DNA databse which is, in theory, a good idea but would be stuffed up in practice.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:10, archived)
# ^This
lets have an image challenge and bring the system down.
It may not work!
(waxdart hello., Wed 6 May 2009, 14:12, archived)
# also
if the Home Office puts your details in wrong (a typo, for example, or a bit of dodgy OCR), then...er...you're responsible

"umm...it says you're called Mr Thmopson"
"no, I'm Mr Thompson"
"hmm...it doesn't match. I'll have to detain you"
(I helped save b3ta! Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:15, archived)
# It's all turning into an unfunny version of Brazil!!
(Jeru War and Piss, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:20, archived)
# A good was to get out of debt
No I'm mr Thmopson . Mr Thompson owes you £50,000. go get that guy.
(waxdart hello., Wed 6 May 2009, 14:20, archived)
# :)
I have loads of fun with this - my first name isn't my given name; my dad wanted to name me after his dad, my mother didn't, so my first name is my granddad's name but I never use it, except on forms... so:

"what's your name Sir...?"
"well - it could be one of two things"
"No - it couldn't..."

all that aside - I might not be fundamentally opposed to some sort of citizenship register, they already have so many of our details anyway a card's not going to make fuck all difference, but the reasons they give for needing it are the same tenuous ones they give for everything else there's a sinister ulterior motive for (*cough* Iraq *cough*) and I think it's due in no small part to having shoddy hopeless lazy spineless Home Secretaries... who let the police (who think everyone is a potential criminal) get away with fucking murder.
(I helped save b3ta! Prof UnderCover evitable, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:21, archived)
# lets burn the fuckers
(I helped save b3ta! VampireMonkeyOnSpeed a super sexy sexual sex terrorist sex, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:11, archived)
# When the global temperature rises a few degrees
and most of Europe has become a desert

and the refugees really start piling in

and we have to reintroduce rationing

you'll be glad of your ID card
(I helped save b3ta! emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:15, archived)
# yeah
we can eat the fucking things.
or sharpen the edges and use them to kill refugees. then eat the refugees.
(I helped save b3ta! Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Wed 6 May 2009, 14:19, archived)