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# I agree they'll surpise people.
by taking votes away from the Tories and Labour enabling UKIP and BNP to make gains..

(asciifaceofbob bob bob bob bob bob bob bob, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:13, archived)
# The BNP and UKIP may make gains,
but very marginal. If anyone is going to challenge the two big boys, the only ones who will stand a chance will be the Liberals.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:14, archived)
# I hear you
and hope you're correct
(asciifaceofbob bob bob bob bob bob bob bob, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:16, archived)
# The only place where the BNP do relatively well,
is in Local elections as far as I see it. They don't have the manpower to make any serious inroads at all on a national scale, and thankfully, probably never will.

Also, rest safe in the knowledge that as stupip as people are in general, they still know the difference between right and wrong on the whole.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:18, archived)
# indeed
One councillor would not be too bad, but 3 or 4 in the local elections could really mess stuff up
(asciifaceofbob bob bob bob bob bob bob bob, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:19, archived)
# The mother of a girl I went to school with ran
as a BNP candidate in the last council elections. I believe she got about 500 votes or something, which is fuck all for where we are relatively. Put into context also, that this is in Eltham, which for the last 12 years has constantly been made out to be a horrendously racist area. There is plenty of hope left :)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24, archived)
# There's a group on facebook for BNP supporters in my home town
It's fun to see which of your schoolmates have gone on to be massive racists
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:36, archived)
# When the BNP membership list was leaked recently
I was surprised to see no-one I knew on it, although there were a few people dotted around the village.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:43, archived)
# "So, Father. I heard that you are a big racist now?"
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:47, archived)
# We had their leaflets through the door the other day
Apparently Labour wants to swamp Britain with - and I quote - 80 million Muslim Turks
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:23, archived)
# The population of Turkey is 70m
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24, archived)
# 10 MILLION MUSLIM TURK CLONES!
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:44, archived)
# I was very disappointed that I missed the guy who delivered ours
As I've been waiting to give him a piece of my mind :(
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24, archived)
# I have a feeling the BNP will do much better than ever before around here in the European elections
:/
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:26, archived)
# i think labour are gonna loose a load
over this stupid fucking expenses thing :(
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Jesse. broke his ankle, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:16, archived)
# To be honest with you,
The Telegraph have fucked me off with that a bit. 7 days non-stop of Labour bashing, and then, in the interest of "fairness", one day each on Conservative and Lib Dem. Seems a bit fucking shoddy to me.

I think Labour will lose a lot of votes over it, but so will the tories. That is where I think the Liberals will pick up the tab.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:19, archived)
# I doubt it
The BNP are strong in that they stand very clearly for certain things. If you ask the man in the street what the Liberals stand for I think you'd struggle to get a good idea of their manifesto. The Liberals had massive impetus after the Iraq war as the only major party who hadn't voted for it, and even then they did bugger all. I can't see them strengthening at all in the next election.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:23, archived)
# What utter bollocks.
You're basically saying that people are going to disregard their intrinsic personal beliefs purely because someone shouts louder than someone else? I think you do the populace a diservice.
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:26, archived)
# VOTE FOR ME!
A VOTE FOR REV IS A VOTE FOR BLOOD SAUSAGE :D
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Jesse. broke his ankle, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:28, archived)
# I hope they are made with the blood of the muslim young....
*racists up just because you shouted loudly* ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:30, archived)
# HAHAHAHAHA
NO ITS MADE FROM PIGS - BRITISH PIGS WITH BRITISH BLOOD (and lots of fat) :D
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Jesse. broke his ankle, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:31, archived)
# How racially insensitive of you!
Don't you know that the ragheads and yids can't eat pork?

*gets confused* ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:35, archived)
# Eh?
No idea how you've got that out of what I was saying. It's nothing to do with "disregarding intrinsic personal beliefs" - simply that there are a lot of people who are frustrated with the current government and see the Liberals as very similar to the Tories and Labour, just less successful. A vote for the BNP is more of a 'revolt' vote, and the BNP's policies are founded much more on an instinctive emotional level than the other parties. It seems you have higher hopes than I, but then I know too many people who vote BNP to have such hopes.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:35, archived)
# I don't know,
I don't know what it is like where you live, but I have never got that feeling around where I live at all. We will see, but come on. It would take the biggest swing in political history for the BNP to have any real say in parliament :)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:49, archived)
# 'instinctive emotional levels'
is why I would like to think we don't vote in the spastics who rant all day in the Daily Mail, even the Tories can't be held mostly in that category; 'instinctive emotional levels' is about the worst thing you would want the voter to cast their democratic vote upon, and about the worst advertisement for our democracy you could think of. If the demonization of our politicians has come to this; then I would rather have a look at our press; certainly there have been some wankers milking the system without any conscious, but most of them were simply going by the rules given their seats were far from London, and it would impractical not to have a second home nearer to Parliament, and not have a fucking chair to sit on in it, or a bathroom mat. Their wages; well, not all that for largely middle aged professionals; hence this expense culture that chaotically got out of hand.

The public's reaction has been typically cringe worthy. Wasn't it last month, the bankers? Where will it end
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 16 May 2009, 22:27, archived)
# be nice
if the liberals did pick up some seats :D

the Tory loving telegraph got on my tits too. :(
(I helped save b3ta! Rev. Jesse. broke his ankle, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24, archived)
# Thign is
I can't really see why people who voted Tory at the last election wouldn't do so at this one. It seems to me that the Liberals tend to gain from disenfranchised middle class labour voters, so for them to gain Labour would have to suffer and that can only strengthen the Tories.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:28, archived)
# I agree on the Liberals gaining largely
from the Labour vote, but I don't see where any growth without the Tory electorate would come from. I doubt that many, if any, Labour voters would actually switch their allegiances that greatly as to move to the Conservatives. And the fact of the matter is that a vote for the Liberals is the only way you are going to get a vote moving back toward where the Labout manifesto should be :)
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:34, archived)
# Liberals=more tax
we pay to much already that is completely wasted on shit like humanitarian foreign aid around the world.

Our own society needs the expenditure first.
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:40, archived)
# A millions pounds spent abroad
That saves a thousand lives
Is worth far more than a million pounds spent at home that builds a new roundabout.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:44, archived)
# Nah
there are to many people on the planet; the volume of population has seriously fucked up our home, and needs to be checked. Throwing money at the third world with their largely monged religious mentalities isn't going to solve the larger and more urgent problem. Their economies need to fend for themselves and develop, if it's harsh, then it's harsh. Literally, such is life The days of humans having ten children have to end; it's almost irrelevant in places like Africa where a third might survive; the planet is hovering on an emergency

I'll rather have more secure commercial adventures such as roundabouts in our own society than wasting the taxpayer's money keeping aloft unproductive societies and cultures abroad. There is simply no reasoning why we should keep throwing economic development at these countries; if they haven't sussed it by now, they never will.
(I helped save b3ta! Jahled Three shades of black, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:53, archived)
# I think there are a number of floating voters
Liberal voters are only going to strengthen the Tories' position.
Edit: And certainly, as mentioned above, there are lots of people pissed off at tax who wouldn't dream of voting for the Liberals' tax-heavy policies.
(I helped save b3ta! Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Sat 16 May 2009, 21:41, archived)