
a certain boris charmed the public with his silly ways :( i will never understand why people are so gullible:(
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Sat 16 May 2009, 20:57,
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but I prefer him to Ken Livingstone. If he got his way, there would be no driving in London at all, and the newts would run the city.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:06,
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What exactly has Boris done?
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:09,
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But on a serious note, what the fuck did Livingstone do in his 8 years in power? Pretty much fuck all as far as I can tell.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:11,
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I also think it was time for a new mayor just not Bojo
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:18,
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I just can't think of one thing he did to improve London myself though. Would be more than willing to be proven wrong however :)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:21,
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It certainly made people think about transport. More Londoners cycle now and cycle routes were improved, we were about to do a deal to reduce public transport's fuel costs by 20% (Boris scuppered this) Quite a few cool cultural events scattered throughout the year.. just a few things off the top of my head
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:25,
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I don't think the congestion charge made one jot of difference. Having worked in the city before and after the congestion charge, I noticed no change whatsoever. Mainly due to the fact that there are 2 kinds of people who drive to work. Those who have to, such as tradesman and whatever, and those who are wealthy and in positions whereby they have parking spaces, or are paying to park in town which is collosally expensive anyway. Thus meaning it is simply a stealth tax and serves no purpose whatsoever.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:29,
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It's almost as if the Eighties never happened, don't you remember people?
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:07,
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I think the Lib Dems are gonna surprise people.
I suspect their best performance in a long long time.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:11,
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I suspect their best performance in a long long time.

Of Nick Clegg hiding in a cardboard box and jumping out to shout BOO at passing people
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:12,
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I wish they had elected Vince Cable as leader of the party. I fucking
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:13,
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by taking votes away from the Tories and Labour enabling UKIP and BNP to make gains..
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:13,
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but very marginal. If anyone is going to challenge the two big boys, the only ones who will stand a chance will be the Liberals.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:14,
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is in Local elections as far as I see it. They don't have the manpower to make any serious inroads at all on a national scale, and thankfully, probably never will.
Also, rest safe in the knowledge that as stupip as people are in general, they still know the difference between right and wrong on the whole.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:18,
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Also, rest safe in the knowledge that as stupip as people are in general, they still know the difference between right and wrong on the whole.

One councillor would not be too bad, but 3 or 4 in the local elections could really mess stuff up
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:19,
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as a BNP candidate in the last council elections. I believe she got about 500 votes or something, which is fuck all for where we are relatively. Put into context also, that this is in Eltham, which for the last 12 years has constantly been made out to be a horrendously racist area. There is plenty of hope left :)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24,
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It's fun to see which of your schoolmates have gone on to be massive racists
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:36,
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I was surprised to see no-one I knew on it, although there were a few people dotted around the village.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:43,
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Apparently Labour wants to swamp Britain with - and I quote - 80 million Muslim Turks
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:23,
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As I've been waiting to give him a piece of my mind :(
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24,
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:/
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:26,
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over this stupid fucking expenses thing :(
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:16,
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The Telegraph have fucked me off with that a bit. 7 days non-stop of Labour bashing, and then, in the interest of "fairness", one day each on Conservative and Lib Dem. Seems a bit fucking shoddy to me.
I think Labour will lose a lot of votes over it, but so will the tories. That is where I think the Liberals will pick up the tab.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:19,
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I think Labour will lose a lot of votes over it, but so will the tories. That is where I think the Liberals will pick up the tab.

The BNP are strong in that they stand very clearly for certain things. If you ask the man in the street what the Liberals stand for I think you'd struggle to get a good idea of their manifesto. The Liberals had massive impetus after the Iraq war as the only major party who hadn't voted for it, and even then they did bugger all. I can't see them strengthening at all in the next election.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:23,
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You're basically saying that people are going to disregard their intrinsic personal beliefs purely because someone shouts louder than someone else? I think you do the populace a diservice.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:26,
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*racists up just because you shouted loudly* ;)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:30,
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NO ITS MADE FROM PIGS - BRITISH PIGS WITH BRITISH BLOOD (and lots of fat) :D
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:31,
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Don't you know that the ragheads and yids can't eat pork?
*gets confused* ;)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:35,
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*gets confused* ;)

No idea how you've got that out of what I was saying. It's nothing to do with "disregarding intrinsic personal beliefs" - simply that there are a lot of people who are frustrated with the current government and see the Liberals as very similar to the Tories and Labour, just less successful. A vote for the BNP is more of a 'revolt' vote, and the BNP's policies are founded much more on an instinctive emotional level than the other parties. It seems you have higher hopes than I, but then I know too many people who vote BNP to have such hopes.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:35,
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I don't know what it is like where you live, but I have never got that feeling around where I live at all. We will see, but come on. It would take the biggest swing in political history for the BNP to have any real say in parliament :)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:49,
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is why I would like to think we don't vote in the spastics who rant all day in the Daily Mail, even the Tories can't be held mostly in that category; 'instinctive emotional levels' is about the worst thing you would want the voter to cast their democratic vote upon, and about the worst advertisement for our democracy you could think of. If the demonization of our politicians has come to this; then I would rather have a look at our press; certainly there have been some wankers milking the system without any conscious, but most of them were simply going by the rules given their seats were far from London, and it would impractical not to have a second home nearer to Parliament, and not have a fucking chair to sit on in it, or a bathroom mat. Their wages; well, not all that for largely middle aged professionals; hence this expense culture that chaotically got out of hand.
The public's reaction has been typically cringe worthy. Wasn't it last month, the bankers? Where will it end
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Sat 16 May 2009, 22:27,
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The public's reaction has been typically cringe worthy. Wasn't it last month, the bankers? Where will it end

if the liberals did pick up some seats :D
the Tory loving telegraph got on my tits too. :(
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:24,
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the Tory loving telegraph got on my tits too. :(

I can't really see why people who voted Tory at the last election wouldn't do so at this one. It seems to me that the Liberals tend to gain from disenfranchised middle class labour voters, so for them to gain Labour would have to suffer and that can only strengthen the Tories.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:28,
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from the Labour vote, but I don't see where any growth without the Tory electorate would come from. I doubt that many, if any, Labour voters would actually switch their allegiances that greatly as to move to the Conservatives. And the fact of the matter is that a vote for the Liberals is the only way you are going to get a vote moving back toward where the Labout manifesto should be :)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:34,
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we pay to much already that is completely wasted on shit like humanitarian foreign aid around the world.
Our own society needs the expenditure first.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:40,
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Our own society needs the expenditure first.

That saves a thousand lives
Is worth far more than a million pounds spent at home that builds a new roundabout.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:44,
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Is worth far more than a million pounds spent at home that builds a new roundabout.

there are to many people on the planet; the volume of population has seriously fucked up our home, and needs to be checked. Throwing money at the third world with their largely monged religious mentalities isn't going to solve the larger and more urgent problem. Their economies need to fend for themselves and develop, if it's harsh, then it's harsh. Literally, such is life The days of humans having ten children have to end; it's almost irrelevant in places like Africa where a third might survive; the planet is hovering on an emergency
I'll rather have more secure commercial adventures such as roundabouts in our own society than wasting the taxpayer's money keeping aloft unproductive societies and cultures abroad. There is simply no reasoning why we should keep throwing economic development at these countries; if they haven't sussed it by now, they never will.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:53,
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I'll rather have more secure commercial adventures such as roundabouts in our own society than wasting the taxpayer's money keeping aloft unproductive societies and cultures abroad. There is simply no reasoning why we should keep throwing economic development at these countries; if they haven't sussed it by now, they never will.

Liberal voters are only going to strengthen the Tories' position.
Edit: And certainly, as mentioned above, there are lots of people pissed off at tax who wouldn't dream of voting for the Liberals' tax-heavy policies.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:41,
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Edit: And certainly, as mentioned above, there are lots of people pissed off at tax who wouldn't dream of voting for the Liberals' tax-heavy policies.

in other news i'm listening to when i'm 64 by the beatles! :D woo! :D
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:17,
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and kicked this as hard as you could
it'd make a mess
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:03,
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it'd make a mess

including us, of course :)
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:04,
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though Kingdom of Heaven is at 21:30 to really lower the anti :D
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:11,
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The more I behold it the more I realize my own life really isn't that bad
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:17,
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won't be starting now :)
In other news, I actually uploaded my first ever torrent earlier.
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:16,
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In other news, I actually uploaded my first ever torrent earlier.


Click for bigger (216 kb)
Rob had just spent twenty minutes coaxing this guy down from a tree

they were dive bombing our Harris Hawk at one point, being devious, intelligent shits, because they've sussed out hawks don't attack with their beaks
evil fiends
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:29,
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evil fiends

As that would be unlawful for you to upload the data the torrent points to. ( not illegal, but unlawful )
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Sat 16 May 2009, 21:22,
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