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# Naaah.
Republican Rome had a class of equitates (I think that's the word), which were the (obvious) forerunners of the chevaliers and hence knights.

Venice was a republic with knights and a nobilty; the same applied to the Dutch Republic. And the English Republic, for that matter.
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 14:58, archived)
# I read an interesting article on Venice the other day.
Turns out they're all a bunch of cunts really Venetians.
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 14:59, archived)
# Many of them had difficulties seeing, too.
Venetian blinds.
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:02, archived)
# It did actually say in the article,
talking about blindness, that the elders of Venice cut out the eyes of the clockmakers who made the big clock so that they couldn't make such a beautiful one for anyone else.
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:04, archived)
# Tsar Ivan IV allegedly did something similar with the architect of the Kremlin.
Dangerous lunatic... but a remarkably admirable man in many other respects, IIRC. Did a lot to make Russia a modern state.
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:11, archived)
# Sorry, but did you just use the terms "Russia" and "modern state" in the same sentence?
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:16, archived)
# Arf!
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:34, archived)
# ;)
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 14:59, archived)
# :)
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:01, archived)
# ;p
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:04, archived)
# :O
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:06, archived)
# *belly laughs*
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:09, archived)
# :s
(, Thu 10 Sep 2009, 15:10, archived)