Been used for decades in N. Ireland and noone gave a shit
Now that a middle class wanna be anarchist may get a soaking it's suddenly an issue.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 16:05,
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Oh this ^^ in spades!!
Some trendy occupy tit-wank getting his basin haircut wet whilst lobbing bricks at the police= brutality.
Some Belfast headbanger protesting against an orange wearing bowler hatted twat marching through their sink estate= irrelevant local news
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da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 16:30,
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Slight difference...
...between the old converted fire pumps used in N. Ireland and the high velocity water cannons we're talking about here. The ones in N Ireland could hardly knock you off your feet. They were designed to repel, not inflict injury!
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Rotten Eggs I don't know why I call him Gerald, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 17:13,
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Did you know that yesterday the Lobbying Bill went through?
We are starting to lose all our rights to complain about or influence this govt, and now we'll be shot with water cannons for thinking about trying.
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What part of the Lobbying Bill is detremental to my protest rights?
When I protest I'm not normally spending a lot of money to do so and won't need to register with the electoral commission.
I will also be very interested in seeing who being lobbying my M.P.
Large charities along with other big business spending lots of money to influence the democratic process will do but I don't have a problem with that.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 17:09,
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The water cannon is detrimental to your physical protest rights
The lobbying bill is detrimental to the rest of your protest rights.
Speaking out against the govt is slowly becoming illegal.
(, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 17:15, Reply)
I'll be very very surprised if these are ever used on the vocal placard brigade.
Brick throwers yes, window smashers yes but not bog standard protest.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 17:28,
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i hope you're right, i really do
But I can't help but think of various peaceful protests last year where the police kettled, brought in horses and massaged the situation in to a violent one. The last thing they need is another weapon with which to antagonise.
(, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 18:53, Reply)
I have a fairly large problem
with limiting groups with no political agenda from being able to publically point at a political figure or party before or during an election - or any time - and say "You're shit, you're not doing what we, the people, want, you're lying, you're crap and you're corrupt"
It's like they don't want us to go about remembering stuff at such sensitive times (or at all)
I also have a problem with big businesses being allowed to lobby the govt in their interests. The bill (so I've heard) will do nothing to curtail lobbying of politicians.
One might argue that it was named thus because it aimed to make lobbying of the people illegal (unless by politicians).
YOU may personally be able to protest, but if you associate with people to do this and try to encourage others to join you, and try to reach a lot of people through advertising - ie, if you try to actually make a difference - you're now being naughty.
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What part of the bill stops you doing that?
Genuine question.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 17:24,
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have a read of the this and the other related stuff if you can find it
blog.38degrees.org.uk/2014/01/29/gagging-law-its-over-for-now/
It is a device aimed at stopping the rise of grass-roots protests, so that (I imagine) the only debate is on TV where the message can be managed.
(, Wed 29 Jan 2014, 17:39, Reply)